Dealing with a large TV between speakers


Thought I'd post this since it's a glaring problem (somewhat literally, very figuratively). I've got a 50" rear projection LCD TV between my speakers that has to be there for many reasons (HT/living room/etc). Soundstaging on the x and y planes seems OK, perhaps a little narrow, but forget about the Z plane. All the action seems to take place horizontally between speakers, with vocals perhaps a bit projected forward.

I've done the Master Set method on my speakers. They are ~3ft from the rear wall and about 7.5' apart (measured from drivers) . The TV is about 20" out from the rear wall and 4.5' wide. There is roughly 18" between the speakers and the sides of the TV.

For a better visual, I've created a drawing here that I've used for submission to various acoustic panel websites.

As you can see, speakers and TV are along the long wall, and I only have about 12' total between that wall and the wall behind me. I can't move the speakers out too much more, and based on Master Set and the rule of thirds, they seem to be where they should and they do sound good there (no bass bloat, clear imaging, etc). There is roughly 2' of space between the rear wall and my head.

What I've done so far for treatment are the acoustic and diffusion panels you see in the picture, and I've wrapped thick round foam pipe insulation (the tubes you can buy at Home Depot) vertically along the sides of the TV, which seems to help. I've also experimented with hanging a diffusion panel or light foam panels over the front of the TV to cover the front. However, I'm not noticing much of a difference with the front of the TV treated or not, surprisingly (I assumed that there would be more glare and smearing with such a large, untreated, reflective surface between the speakers and directly in front of me).

Outside of throwing a blanket over the TV (which I tried, didn't really work) do you see any way to accomplish more depth to the soundstage? Questions and comments welcome, but keep in mind, I can't move the TV.
tholt

Showing 1 response by learsfool

Looking at your drawing, I would definitely agree with Shadorne that the TV is not the main issue. In fact, I would say that the sliding glass door behind the left speaker, and the entryway behind the right speaker probably have even more to do with the loss in your soundstage depth than the TV in-between the speakers does. But the main thing is that they should ideally be on one of the short walls.

My brother has a similar situation to yours, and also has a large TV between his speakers. He experimented with removing the TV (and also covering it as you did) and found it made no significant difference to the overall soundstage, so he put it back. He unfortunately cannot place his speakers on the short wall. If you can, this is by far the best solution. If not, I would also consider curtaining the screen door somehow, and if there is not a door on that entryway, considering putting something there as well.

I myself have a large plasma TV between my speakers (as well as my audio rack, for that matter), but they are on a short wall and the speakers are also horns, so their shape minimizes the effects of the room anyway by directing the sound much more where I want it to go, even though the set-up is very far from a theoretical ideal. I also have plenty of diffusion throughout the room, which is also much larger, so I have plenty of space behind the listening spot. The effect of the TV is therefore very minor in my set-up. I have a huge soundstage however you want to measure it - width, depth or height. I am sure it could be improved by better placement, but that is not possible with the other furniture in the room. I hope someday to have a dedicated room, but that is years off yet.