Dealer affiliations and attitudes, assumptions and lack of respectful engagement in audio.


When I started in Audiogon 20 years ago it was a different  place. There was pretty civil discussions with fellow audiogoners. There were audio dealers on the site and there were also hobbyists and it wasn’t a big deal.  I been on the dealer side/business side the last 7 years. Here is what I find. A lot of us tend to be quickly negative and nasty to those who disagree with us. We don’t have the sharing of knowledge spirit that we used to have.  A lot of us want to show others how much smarter than we are than them. In addition to that there seems to be an attitude that if you are a dealer you gotta be shilling instead of just telling the truth. More importantly there seems to be an attitude that audio is the only thing you do. I have a firm in my professional life that I have ran for 25 years. I’m smart enough to know you never know who you are talking to. I just think audiogoners have repeatedly started to step over the line and become HABITUAL LINE STEPPERS and not engage with the necessary level of respect.  A lot of us in the hobby just want to meet and have positive audio and music experiences. Not rage debate! WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS EVERYONE? 

calvinj
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Over the decades of joining and leaving forums like this, I've found that there are always a handful of people that love to troll. This was true of a cycling forum I used to be on in the early aughts. Inevitably, I learn to ignore them and engage with the those that might be able to part with the wisdom I seek. What I also realized is that phrasing questions or opinions in the right way so as not to come off as smug/aggressive/troll-like is something learned. If you have to deal with prickly clients or consultants in the "real world," you learn how to communicate in a clear manner that can be informative and diffuse a situation.

However, on forums like this, tone can be hard to determine. And oftentimes, sarcasm isn't readily apparent. That too is a skill that you can't get over-night. It's like the on-line discourse of Gen-Z and Millenials that think punctuation like periods and exclamation points and thumbs-up emojis are like a slap across the face.

At the end of the day, social media has removed the veil from many people's abilities to be calm, respectful of others' opinions, and being tactful.

Even in a post pointing out that this has devolved from a respectful audio chat site to something else people can't help themselves but make it political. Do you not get enough about politics on every other site you visit? I personally hear enough about politics and would like a break when it comes to hobbies and interests. 

Money breeds entitlement for most. Plus advertising/marketing preaches buy the best be the best b..s..t.  Our brains are easily manipulated not to mention "success" of click chasers and national leadership. Are there any citizens left after Bill Moyers exited this mortal coil? Maybe Ken Burns.