dCS Elgar plus vs. Delius - confused


This is pretty confusing for me...
I've been on dCS page,and it seems to me that Delius is "trickled-down" version of Elgar plus,with some added features.It seems to me that Delius can accept DSD data.Can Elgar plus do that?For instance,can they both accept cd-upsampled-to-DSD data from Verdi La Scala transport?
One more thing - do both of these DACs feature volume control in digital domain?Is it accesible both on the unit and on the remote?
Delius has adjustable output voltage ("up to 6V").What other values are there for output voltage?This is very important to me.
Has anyone heard both of these DACs?
Those who have heard both - which one would you rather own?
Please help-i am puzzled here
Thanks
audiobb

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Hi Gtfour45,

Thanks a lot for your very helpfull answer.
I am not sure yet is Elgar plus capable of accepting 24bit/192 kHz data?
For instance,if someone uses a Purcell in front of Elgar and feeds it 24/192,is Elgar plus able to process it?
As i understood,with Purcell,you can feed it with any (RCA,BNC or Toslink) 16bit/44.1kHz data,and get out of it anything you want?24/96,24/194 or even DSD at Firewire output?
Hi everybody,

Thanks a lot for your answers.Gtfour45,it does get a little bit complicated.Upgrade after upgrade after upgrade etc.I started searching for a good DAC,and Elgar plus and Delius emerged.I am looking for a DAC with volume control in digital domain.I think both of these DACs have digital volume control,as mentioned in Stereophile.

I am usually not a fan of digital volume control,but i will soon own a pair of mono attenuators using only Vishay S102,so it will be possible for me to adjust the volume using them. Dig. vol. control is there only to be used with remote near the top of the range,so i don't have to get up every time i want to listen a bit less loud.

I am still in doubt whether to go dCS or not,as it seems there is no end.First Elgar plus,then Purcell,then Verona,cables..Seems like a long way to go.

Bvdiman,thanks for the info.I like the idea of having the possibility to change the sound with different upsampling settings.You are right,this could be very good value second hand with the release of Scarlatti.
I am planning to use my Quad CD-P2 as a transport first (as a player or DAC the bass is somewhat slower,altough tolerable).Then later Verdi,if i go the dCS route.

Still not sure is it maybe better to go in "one-box-solution" direction.It started with P8i,but then i found out there is no Program,Repeat or Random functions.
I don't want to have a 14k player which is not capable of doing things 200$ player can.It just frustrates me.
Puccini has them,but 12.5k$ used is too much for me.
Accuphase seems also as a possible solution (DP-500,or DP-75V or similar,it depends),but i am searching for the fast,tight bass source (among other things).dCS seems more like that.
So many options and questions..
Thanks for the answers everybody!
Also,i just got the information that Elgar plus is capable of upsampling on its own.What sample rates Elgar plus can upsample to?24/96,24/192 and DSD?
If Elgar plus is capable of 24/192 upsampling,then this should give the same result as using a Purcell set to 24/192 output to Elgar plus?
Yes,Bvdiman,you are right.I was misinformed. Elgar plus only accepts data of diff. sample rates.Has anyone had a chance to audition Verona/Purcell 1394/Elgar plus against P8i or Puccini?
I wonder how these would compare to one another..