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DAC to Amps bypassing preamp: Opinions please

I am wondering what experiences folks have had with running the output of the DAC (with volume control) right to the amps bypassing the preamp. I am currently running a Muse 296 DAC into a BAT VK-5i, but that is my only input into the preamp, so don't need preamp switching. I was thinking of going to a DAC like the Camelot Usher that has a volume control (also need balanced inputs/outputs) and removing the preamp from the chain. The amps being used are Wright Sound Mono 10's feeding Zu Tone monitors. Any thoughts? What about compatability issues with going from DAC right to preamp. Is there enough level from the DAC to attain full output from the amps?

Thanks in advance

- Stew
smeyers

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drubin
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This is something you really need to try for youself. In most cases, there will be some areas of clear improvement, but some people feel they give up important qualities as well. Very much a personal decision based on your sonic priorities, budget, and beliefs about the role of a preamp.
drubin
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I'm with you, Studioray -- it doesn't make sense. And yet I can attest to having had the same experience as Eric at times.
drubin
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the only plus going direct is the money savings
I disagree. Going direct, assuming the DAC's attenuation is done well, will give you clarity, purity, and image stability (among other things) that you will almost surely sacrifice some of when you add another component and set of interconnects. That's been my experience. Again, you may prefer the sound with the preamp. It's usually more dynamic, has more "body", and produces a larger soundstage. But it's not all upside IMO.

Smeyers, you are asking the question a thinking man asks, which is why should this be so. Other than impedence matching, which is usually not an issue, no one seems able to give a satisfactory answer. Which makes you wonder... It's a fertile topic for cognitive dissonance, that much is clear.

For the record, I've bounced back and forth for more than 10 years between going direct and using a pre.

Conrad-Johnson is introducing a $6500 "control amplifier", which is an integrated without a traditional preamp section. No doubt some people will use this thing with a separate preamp.
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