Da Vinci AAS Gabriel


Hi,
I read the TAS review of this USD60K tt. Has any audiogoner out there any first hand experience with this tt and can share opinions? I currently use the TW Acustic Raven AC3 tt with the Davinci arm and cartridge. Wondering if it is worthwhile at all to switch to the AAS Gabriel tt.
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Showing 4 responses by axelwahl

Looks like trophy audio too me, so I'd stay with the Raven AC3 - happy listening to all MY Lps and get some more.
But, that may just be a bit boring?
Want to drive "Porsche", go get one and get it out of your system while you can.
Hi DT...,
am I correct in assuming the 'Platine Verdier' does NOT use a motor controller, and therefore relying on belt slip/creep, platter mass, and controlled bearing friction to 'cancel' the effects of cogging?
Axel
Well,
1. Klasse or not. If I read the response it'd tell me that "Platine Verdier" can not work as a top tt should work, because it is at constant "war" with the -constant- bearing friction... hm,?!?

Hey, I guess I'm not ready for this engineering-101 type of analysis yet. Something tells me this is more opinion then knowledge based analysis :-)

One fact to be considered: motors (most? all?) in order to perform correctly/steadily - AC to make sure, since DC is all over the place due to other issues, need to operate AGAINST some sort of load, the more constant the better.

This would completely contradict this almost 'free-wheeling' notion that I seem to hear by Syntax.
Thomas, were did you obtain your engineering degree? In the 2. Klasse then?
Greetings,
Axel
D.T.
y.s.:
>> If you want to go with a low platter weight - fine. <<

Not necessarily, in fact I have this suspicion from what I heard this far, there is once again some trade-of going on here.
I have heard the 'musical' mass-platters close to what you mention (alas not with loosish string), - and very 'fast' lower-mass-platters ~ 4.5kg, that can sound a bit 'restless' even nervous like.
So Thomas, where he sees it, seems a bit unclear to me, but since he likes to 'stir the pot' he may like AND dislike both, in the fashion of a true chilled out cynic?

In the case of a ~ mass-platter (of sorts), Transrotor Z3 with a jolly tense neoprene belt, it goes as much the route pretty of a Thorens 2010 arrangement.

Then we have the 'Platine Verdier' with yet heavier platter and a rather LONG, no-stretch Kevlar? string. (Tensioning and length is up to the user - like how long is your rack space?)

If I'd have to pick between the 3, I guess I'd be still looking at the 'Verdier' rather.
Then we have the SME system, fast, dynamic --- BUT not necessarily all what you'd call a: really dynamic low register, [or] "air" in the bass line, YMMV.

Now, so we wont loose the thread subject -- where do our 2 contenders, TW & Da Vinci, fall into the scheme of things?

Note: I once tried a no-stretch string in place of a square (stretchy belt) on a RPM 9 ----> result: Plain awful...
Greetings,