D to A converter purchase....


I'm debated on either a Wadia 321 or the Schiit Gungnir Multibit.    Does anyone have experience with these two products?    Thoughts?    They are both close in price.   
whiskeypirate

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I do not have experience with either the Wadia 321 or the Schiit Gungnir Multibit. However, I do have experience with a Schiit Yggdrasil and experience dealing with Schiit as a company (business entity). I'll give them a thumbs up.
Note that the Gungnir Multibit is effectively an 18-bit DAC

Not according to Schiit

.........coupled to four precision Analog Devices AD5781BRUZ digital to analog converters for true hardware balancing and 19 effective bits of resolution.

The DAC chip is 18 bit, however, Schiit uses two per channel.

2^18 = 262144
2* (2^18) = 2* 262144
524288 = 524288
2^19 = 524288
Yes, I realize the gain in signal-to-noise ratio when you combine the converter chips that way, but it's still an 18-bit part and will only decode 18 bits worth of data.

This thread discussion is beginning to read a lot like this one :)

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/schiit-yggdrasil-21-bit/post?highlight=2097152&postid=148...


I just think it's rather silly to claim you're "preserving the original samples" when it's clearly not the case for 24-bit source material.

Are you referring to the Yggdrasil or Gungnir? I think you are referring to the Yggdrasil, as I do not read the "preserving" text elsewhere.

In the case of the Yggdrasil, Schiit addresses the 24 bit issue. From their web sites FAQ page.
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If your 24 bit recordings actually have 24 bits of resolution, we’ll eat a hat. And those "32-bit" DACs? Well, they have this measurement known as “equivalent number of bits.” This means, in English, how many bits of resolution they really have. And that number, for most of them, is about 19.5. And 21 is better than 19.5, in all the math books we know.
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So I'm not sure it is "clearly not the case". Moreover, I've played plenty of 24 bit material at various sample rates and it sounds really, really, good to my ears. :)

Bottom line though is that Schiit gear isn't for everyone.  It's akin to what Jerry has to say about the Grateful Dead.

“We're like licorice. Not everybody likes licorice, but the people who like licorice really like licorice.”