Curl or Pass


Am looking to upgrade my phono preamp.  Interested in the Pass Labs XP-15 and the Parasound JC3+.

Any opinions as to which is better?

Both about the same price used, about $2,300.

I have a Well Tempered Reference TT with a rebuilt Lyra Clavis, very low output MC.
dougthebiker

Showing 7 responses by georgehifi

I’ve never heard of Herron or Tom Evans.

Here's one I'm sure there are other, from what my vinyl customers tell me.
https://forums.whathifi.com/threads/review-tom-evans-audio-design-mastergroove.72863/

Cheers George
And your response here makes you the perfect example.
That’s right, I didn’t start this, I was being responsive to your bs abuse you tried to put on me and my product, even though it wasn’t mentioned originally by me.


dougthebiker : I was steering you to a very very good Phono stage in the Tom Evans range, that have so much gain there is no need for an active pre, a passive will do, and the money saved on not buying an active pre can maybe put toward Tom Evans flagship phono stage.

Nelson Pass:

“We’ve got lots of gain in our electronics. More source gain than some of us need or want. At least 10 db more.

Think of it this way: If you are running your volume control down around 9 o’clock, you are actually throwing away source signal level so that a subsequent active preamp gain stage can make it back up."

With added noise and distortions.

Nelson Pass:

"Routinely DIYers opt to make themselves a “passive preamp” - just an input selector and a volume control.

What could be better? Hardly any noise or distortion added by these simple passive parts. No feedback, no worrying about what type of capacitors – just musical perfection.

And yet there are guys out there who don’t care for the result. “It sucks the life out of the music”, is a commonly heard refrain (really - I’m being serious here!). Maybe they are reacting psychologically to the need to turn the volume control up compared to an active preamp.”

Cheers George

The @georgehifi post is a perfect example. George loves the Tom Evans phono stages because he "Has models that have big gain so you only need a passive pre to go with them" and George sells Passive preamps.
You are blind to what I said. It then saves the owner then paying $$$$ for a useless line stage preamp.
I’m not telling him to purchase a Lightspeed, a simple $49 Schiit Sys passive would then do, get off your "active preamp pedestal".
I would seriously look at Tom Evens range of phono stages, many hold him up as the Messiah of phono stages. Has models that have big gain so you only need a passive pre to go with them, and have switchable adjustable cartridge loading impedances.
http://www.audiodesign.co.uk/

Cheers George