Go for it Swampwalker! I stake any reputation I have as a listener on it! Zaikesman, RUN, DON'T WALK, to get yourself some of these! I do think you should get one that has been cooked first. I can send you a link if you want! You don't need an A/B comparison to hear this! |
Zaikesman, I have been wondering the same thing myself. If you want you can go to the thread, "Albert porter only needs 50" and read my painful but rewarding epic on this matter. Tere isn't many others who are commenting yet. Perhaps they haven't gotten around to installing them yet. My short answer is "three thumbs up"! |
Sounds like the plan to me Swampwalker! You will be bowled over! My final daily update is forthcoming. I think Bevis would say, "Cryo,...cool". |
Zaikesman, I respect your thoughful and reserved approach. I am one who does not try to reinvent the wheel every year or even more often as some audiophiles do who belong to the cable or amp of the month. As far as reviewers go I like to read Moncreif/IAR as he does just what you are talking about.
Myself I am not reviewer and thus am not bound by any conventions and am free to explore and be spontanious. Yes there may be better scientific method if you are seeking explanations and quantification of results. I can toss all that baggage and do what makes my system come alive. This did and I could not be more excited about it. I have about, lets call it 20K worth of stuff sitting here,and $75 bucks makes it all work like never before. I guess I think everyone should experience it. So Zaikesman, be wild, let go this once, and forget the science and just listen to the MUSIC that comes out of your system. If I am wrong on this it's not like I am asking you to fire sale your whole system and follow me like the pied piper into a sonic netherword or worse yet some monitary black hole. I have to say that of anyone with a system that should be able to resolve something of this nature it is Albert. Compareing that thing(Albert's system)to my system is like compareing a lazer beam to a red christmas light! Albert seems to hear it and i do too. If you don't like the sound I am sure that you could sell it and not be out much. How many other audiophile boondoggles can you realy say that about.
To answer your question about if anyone has compared the cryo to the non cryo I am sure that Albert and Lak have. I am sure they would be more than happy to tell you their findings. At this point if someone took these damn things away I would cryo a river of tears! Or, it's my party and I'll cryo if I want to? You would cryo too....... |
Viggen follow the link I gave to Zaikesman if you are interested. You are pretty well on with your guess. here is the short cut to the technical info. www.cryogenicsinternational.com |
I have done some research and talked to people much smarter than my self(my brother, for one, he is the guy that designed the integrated circuit chips for Motorola that made, you may have heard of it,the cell phone, possible). Cryo in my understanding changes the metal in a way that makes it more dense and more conductive. It seems to have the same effect as a single crystal in reducing the diode effect between the less dense non cryoed metal. More conductive= better flow of electrons=better performance of the circuits hooked to them!
My God you are a curmuddgen! I bet your Mom used to say to you all the time "if all those other boys jumped off a cliff, would you jump too?"
The biggest drawback I can find with cyro treating any electronic item is what seems to be the very long burn in time. I guess if I realy cared about it the same way you do I would have my old cheap 85 cent Leviton's sent out to be cry treated and then try them, but why? In reality their ARE some differences in the construction between my old stock contracrtor style outlets(which were in generally good condition, without gross signes of age) and the Hubbell's. The difference I hear is just too great for it to just be simple construction.If you have a philisophical adversion to cryo then buy the Wattgate for $150 which is said to be about as good sounding. I have heard other stock Hospital style plugs in other peoples systems do almost nothing other than give the system owner peace of mind. Why do you want to fight this so damn hard? I believe what careful listeners like Albert and other members have found and I just tagged along on their coat tails. All I know for sure is that it works! You Left brain types have it harder than us right brainers! The left brainer thing can drive me nuts sometimes. I have a fine arts degree and have been over exposed to the world of art crticism. An artist creates a work that comes from an affective state of mind. The critic comes up with alot of ivory tower, rhetoric nonsense to try to explain the asthetic and emotive intention of the artist(snotty white art babble), instead of just experiencing the beauty of the work and perhaps just enjoying it for what it is. You like music so their is a right brain aspect to your mind, go their and enjoy the beauty and quit trying to explain it. It's time to jump off the cliff with the rest of the boys! |
Kaikesman, am I to take it that you feel I'm not holding my own in the debate?
Do you want to read some info on cryo? I can direct you to some sites that may answer some of your questions and perhaps raise new ones. |
Zaikesman, what a grouch! Typing ain't my specialty.
Go to www.audioexcellence.com then to the world power link at the bottom of the home page. This will have some info and a link to Cryogenics International. Check it out.
I don't need to win this so called debate. If you don't have $65 I understand, times ARE hard. In the end it's just your loss if you don't try one. Like the French soldiers said to King Aurthur,in Monty Python's, "Search for the Holly Grail",when he informed these soldiers gaurding the castle that he was on a quest seeking the grail they replied, "We already got one... Now go away or I will taunt you a second time"
I have already left a trail of bread crumbs for you to follow. Hurry before birds eat it! |
Ok, Zaikesman I guess you have good reason to be a bit testy today. I hope your system is back up and running soon! |
Zaikesman(I checked the spelling twice) what you fail to glean from what I have been TRYING to tell you is that this anin't no "tweek"! This anin't no, well I think I heard something did you hear something, sort O'thing. This ain't no, well maybe it gave me a 1% improvment sort O'thing! It ain't no, gee I think it improved that a bit but screwed everything else up in the process, sort O'thing! This is a real honest to God, WOW, how the hell did I listen to it without that sort O' thing that improves virtually every aspect of the sound and I can say seems to have no ill effects, no trade offs! What the hell else can do that for $65? If you know please hurry the hell up and tell me cuz I am gonna darn well get me one! That is why I am preaching about this like some demented sky piolot! If you ain't got one you NEED one! Period! |
It's for his own good. Now this won't hurt...... |
Zaikesman, I don't want anyone to bow before me.You would think that I had just spoken in tounges, drank poison,rolled on the floor, and played with a rattle snake!(although it was sort of like that to get you to at least listen to me)
I just think it would be fun if it put a big smile on your face. Might be ever more satisying since you resist it so much. Seems like you need a grin or two after the other night. |
