Cross-talk and distortion, chief soundstage contributors...


In my continuing effort to learn about the "chemistry" of sound, I have recently been informed that it is significantly low (vanishing) distortion and avoiding crosstalk that supply the key sonic elements for deep, broad, tall, etc. soundstage... this, of course, is independent of speakers, pre-amp, cables, etc. I'm focusing on the amplifier, alone... Again, the issue here are the fundamental (amplifier) qualities involved in soundstage. Can anyone add some dimension to what I'm learning in this...

Thanks in advance,
listening99

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That makes no sense to me.


No it wouldn’t until you’ve tried it, too much converting back and forward, just like slotting in a digital active xover like a Deqx or mini DSP instead of using a very good analog active xover like the Pass B4.
Same deal all round, one becomes very sterile and digitizes’s sound, the other doesn’t and keeps the harmonic structure in tact. And the sound of your prized dac.


Trouble with that is there goes the sound of the owners prized dac, because now there’s inferior cheap digital stages in use in the signal path. Been down that dead end path, trying to do digital domain xovers, you ruin any class your prize dac had.    
Is this measured? Are we measuring this? What is the measurement?
You can simply do it yourself without any measuring gear, put a 10kohm pot between L and R channels on the output of your source, and get some one to slowly reduced it till it shorts L and R together, while your listening.
That’s basically what I did in the demo above but with a fixed resistance to reduce the cdp to 30db channel separation.

Now if you devise a circuit in a box for the cd output to mimic the separation curve of the Lyra cartridge https://ibb.co/3Y9jM2W , then your early ping pong cd’s will sound better like vinyl can do to them. I’ve already named it, and called it "The Digital Vinylizer"

Cheers George
listening99 OP
The "bleeding" of information from one channel to the other, is what I'm seeking to understand - how does this impact sound-stage?


The more you bleed left and right towards mono, the better the central image becomes, and the worse the image either side of center l & r and out side the speakers image becomes.
Vinyl is classic at giving a great central image at barely 30db of channel separation at 1khz in the midrange, but it's bass is almost mono, and it's treble isn't that much better.
Here is a expensive Lyra phono cartridge channel separation graph.
https://ibb.co/3Y9jM2W

I did an experiment for an audience on the output of a cd player to bleed the both channels down to 30db max, with a switchable circuit, and everyone preferred it playing old Beatles etc etc. Because it gave more richness to the mix, even though it was almost mono'ized and only had a central image. 

Cheers George