Critical listening and altered states


Ok, this is not a question about relaxing, but about listening to evaluate how the system (or a piece of gear is sounding).

What, in your experience, are the pluses and minuses of altering your state of mind for listening? This can include anything you've used to affect your everyday state of mind, from coffee, beer, scotch, tobacco, to much stronger — and psychoactive, dissociative — additives.

What do you gain by altering your consciousness in terms of what you notice, attend to, linger on, etc?
What causes more details to emerge?
What allows you to stick with a thread or, alternately, make new connections?

Or perhaps you like to keep all those things *out* of your listening; if that's you, please say a bit about why.

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Showing 5 responses by oldhvymec

There is a difference between altered states and wasted days and waisted nights.

Beer is a brawler
Wine is a mocker
Peyote buttons, LOL are neither, Altered states does come to mind..

Weed helps with my arthritis, it does mellow my state a tad..

Coffee, nothing change my "STATE" more.. Caffeine is a serious drug, completely unregulated..

Regards
It's simple, if there is ONE person locked up behind VICE, that's one to many.

When child molesters, rapist, murders, thieves, and ARSONIST, roam the country freely and someone who grew pot, or paid for a sex worker or bought dope from a COP is in jail.. IT'S BROKE.. Cowards laws for cowards..

The only problem with Vice is the corrupt COPS that work it.. Everyone is dirty.. That's the reason they work it.. I never met one that wasn't either..

I worked for Laidlaw, huge contract for cleaning labs, pot farms, you name it.. The people watching US.. Keep your wives and children locked up.

NEVER turn your back and lock your tool boxes around them... Worst thieves I ever met. 

Every one bragged about what they stole from the raid sites.. OPENLY...

25-35 years ago.. DEA, ATF, my A$$. More people murdered than the flippin' Taliban behind no knock warrants..

Flash bangs are HAND GRENADES, you should see what happens to babies and animals... OPS!!! Wrong house.. Nothing found.. 

Prison and NO TRIAL.. Hand grenades on the American public and death squad warrants. Never see a court.. Hand them over the families..

And then defend their action.. An American dies someone goes to jail..

A search warrant is a tool used to conduct a reasonable search, it's not a death warrant.. It's always some 25 year old without a conscience, that's why they use the YOUNG.. They haven't grown from a Barny to an Andy, add 15 years..

You get Andy..20% of the time.. A peace officer with sense. Not one bullet Barney 80%.. I have a family FULL of good cops.. thank God.. Maybe one bad one or two, well there might be 1/2 dozen or so.. Well actually they are all dirty.. They just didn't get caught..

One good one for sure out of 15 or so.. Not bad.. I think it's because he's Swedish and married into the family.. :-)

Regards
Excuse me OP I get a little wound up about Vice.. What can I say.. I try to keep it in check.. and I have for 40 years..
Drugs, gamblin’, sex, traveling, anything that is a problem in someone else’s life, is a problem in everyone’s life.. EXCEPT the person in denial..
Like I said that 50% of the people..

Choosing to help the world is still a choice, no one was drafted.. Then bellyache about the choice. PTSD.. I got PTSD from SFPD, how’s that. LOL

I think I’ll get altered.. "TILT" puff puff pass. Play on Carlos, play on..
Got to change your Evil ways’

Hat on the floor as I slowly walk around to the beat of the music and my faithful dog follows me. I stop.. I slowly back around the hat.. Olay Amigo.. I like salsa.. I'm an American Irishman and Sioux go figure..

TGIF
Flash-bangs are not grenades, there’s no shrapnel. Disorienting bright flash & loud noise, that’s it. Prevented many bad outcomes. Maybe problematic in your family’s hands…

Some big cop-hating issues you’ve got there.

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You saw a lot of money? You saw what was LEFT.. Give me a break..
How many times did YOU pat people down and walk away with THEIR money, their GUN, their pocket knife, their anything? LOL plenty of times...

I return pins at work too.. I didn't steal nuts bolts or ANYTHING, including TIME. Tell about the "GOOD" works you did.. BLABBIN away setting side by side blabbing half the night passing a bottle, or watching out while your partner taps a local prostitute for the "weekly" right to work the corner payment.. ..

LA cops impounding Latino kids cars behind a joint in the ashtray. DIRTY? How many times?

I’m glad you did your 25, I did 49 years of WORK... BTW Shot twice, stabbed once..

I did 89 days in a cage in Panama, behind DIRTY COPS, and payola.
I’m angry hell, I’m livin’ proof!!!

AND I’ve never hated a soul in my life. What they did YES..

Like I said COWARDS, Like I said Hand Grenades, Like I said DIRTY..

If you used flash bangs in the US. PRISON!!!

Countless people in jails, behind drugs and Vice. 1800 cops and you only new a few that were drug/Vice abusers..

You’re exactly the cop I was talking about.. Complete denial as you sip your single malt.. I can always spot an abuser of LIFE and then has the gall to defend it.. Sip away BARNEY. The compassion and abuse I’ve seen from the very same person that is every bit as messed up as the crackhead they were busting..

It’s never the drug it’s the person who is NEVER responsible. 50% of people admit to OCD behavior, the other 50% are in DENIAL.

I suppose there were "Good shoots" too, as some kid lays dead behind a cell phone. How many times.. "I THOUGHT" I saw a weapon.

Texas two years ago. 3 dead behind a warrant. The Dog, The Wife, The Husband. 59, 49, (dog unknown but dead). Someone ASKED where to buy heroin from someone in the house, who happened to be an informant.

He WAS a VET.. A state full of drunks and they murder people behind a warrant and ASKING where to buy something.. Just like bounty hunting and private prisons.. Put the whole lot in their own revolving prison door.

Let a thief go but hold a prostitute. One is making money, one is stealing money.. Usually payola of one "KIND" or the other..
"Drugs, gamblin’, sex, traveling, anything that is a problem in someone else’s life, is a problem in everyone’s life.. EXCEPT the person in denial.."

All that weed is clouding your sense of reality old boy.

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Thanks for confirming what I said. So with you it’s, gambling, traveling or drugs (god forbid a sex nut (one of the worst besides gamblers).

I was a shop steward for many years. The worst thing was telling a lady why her husband was being arrested at WORK for stealing thousands of gallons of fuel behind GAMBELING. One of several I knew. This guy even sold the tire chains off the rig in Reno and couldn't leave unless he was chained up.. THAT'S what started the whole 4 year sentence, in Quentin. He got violent with the cops.. I don't think he would have done time, if not for that stupid screw up.. 4 years...

The guy I was just working for squandered, millions from a company and lost a franchise behind TRAVELING, to nowhere just to travel. LOOK at a picture for god sakes..

Weed.. it is a gift from my forefather along with tobacco to the western world from the native folks that were here before. The other side of my lineage brought booze to the Americas.. oh yes.. I stay away from it all together.. No Beer, No Wine, no Strong drink.. My green eyed black Irish father taught me that. Quite the war hero, quite the drunk. I loved HIM not his drinkin’.. I’m surprised my sweet mother didn’t light the bed on fire..

Confused? NO!!

Informed, yes. AND when you find and OLD boy you know what to do with HIM don’t you..

I think I’ll get altered AGAIN and go feed the chickens.. Water melon eatin’ chickens..