Creek Destiny or Rogue Cronus Magnum?

Yes, the tube rolling is a benefit. I own both tubes and SS. I like mu amps but I'm looking for something I can keep without hesitation for a few years. Surely someone has a definite opinion on the Rogue Cronus Magnum and especially the Creek Destiny? They are said to be breathtakingly good integrateds.

Thank you, the TAS review is most informative.
Creek opinions anyone? Anyone?

Pdrher, Vinyladdict,
I really appreciate your opinions. My focus IS on creating an all American system. I KNOW the Creek is not American, but I may consider it. As no one is offering any opinion of it, apparently it either stinks or it is a super sleeper no one wants to share.
I am also looking for the long term, and I think I'd like to go American made.

Well, I finally pulled the trigger and bought the Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum. After one day with it I am very pleased.
Samlucas091 I would like very much to hear your impressions of the Rogue you're getting in the mail.
I enjoyed reading your impressions till you wrote "if you have to ask you are off on the wrong foot my friend. Regroup - get some knowledge. This looks like a disaster waiting to happen," which is overly dramatic and judgmental.
You claim that if I have to ask I'm off on the wrong foot. If this is the case, no one should ask anything to increase their knowledge using the Audiogon forum.
Thanks all for your excellent input.

All I can tell definitely is the 12AX7's are NOS Made in USA, and the 12AU7's are NOS Japanese tubes. If anyone has any idea what they may be please let me know.
I am definitely impressed with this amp and the KT90's.
As Pdreher said, When in doubt, go with the tubes (and buy American).

Hello all,
I just got off the phone with Mark O'Brian (sic?) the owner of Rogue. I have had several discussions with him and his staff and I have to say the folks at Rogue are pleasant, informed, informative and pleasant.
I am pleased to have an American made integrated supported by an American staff in America.
In case you think I've lost focus, The Cronus Magnum sounds terrific, and I have begun tube rolling. Truly the pleasure and revelation continue.
PS: I got an e-mail from an Audiogoner who claimed Rogue are made in China and that they make components for other manufacturers. NEITHER CASE IS TRUE.

Oh. Thank you for your detailed and well reasoned reply.

The 12AU7's are RCA clear tops and the 12AX7's are of Japanese origin. I've replaced them with Telefunkens.