Creek Destiny or Rogue Cronus Magnum?

I think that Samlucas091 was saying that how good an amp will perform is system dependent, and especially viz-a-viz the speakers it will be driving. To compare such different amps independently of the speakers it will be asked to drive is almost impossible. Now if you love the Rouge, fine, I'm sure it is a very nice tube integrated amp, and indeed made in the U.S. from many parts made elsewhere. And it may be a great match with your speakers. That does not mean that with a different type of speaker, lets say one with big impedance swings and input impedance below 4 ohms in the bass region (something like a Thiel or some of the B&Ws for example), that the Creek would not have been a better choice. I thought that was what Samlucas091 was trying to get at and why a disaster waiting to happen can happen if system context if not part of the question. Of course you might have struck it right that you have a speaker that can be driven optimally by tube amps, not all can.