Counterfeit Chinese Cables


I thought that I would write this for those who are curious about one of the many counterfeit Chinese interconnect cables that are available these days. I know that there have been threads about the subject before, and I was always curious because they seem to be such a bargain. I don't really recall much about what any members actually said about the performance of these counterfeit cables, and I didn't look back and do any research, but a couple of months ago there was a thread that came around to discussing the quality of Chinese made components, and oldhvymec said something that made sense to me.

He said that people that say that what they are making is junk should consider that much of what is in our gear, and a lot of our American brands are actually manufactured there. I decided shortly after that that I would take the chance on a set of interconnects, because I suspected that the interconnects going from my pre to my amp were the weak link and needed upgrading. The interconnects going from my DAC to my pre were Kimber Select which are very good, but the other set were LAT International (now defunct) which had cost $500.00 when new, but I had reason to believe they were lacking because I have one of their digital cables that turned out to be very poor sounding in comparison to others I own.

I decided on a one meter pair of counterfeit Nordost Odin interconnects for a total of $104.00 from Aliexpress. I received them a couple of weeks later. They appeared to be well made, and the locking fake WBT rca's were very impressive and are very tight. 

First impressions after installing them were light, thin sound, lacking bass. Each couple of days brought improvements, but from the beginning I noticed that they were quieter. Now, weeks later, I can say that they are drastically better that the LAT's in every way. Detail and ambience are much better, but it's the focus and separation of instruments that is most noticeable. 

I have no way of knowing if they are really a copy of the Nordost design, but I am impressed enough that I am going to try a counterfeit Nordost digital cable.

Obviously, this isn't a comparison that is useful to most, because there probably isn't anyone here using the LAT's, and everything is system dependent. I just wanted to relay my positive experience. 

Nordost ODIN&2 RCA Fever Audio Signal Cable Double Lotus Sterling Silver Audio Cord Video CD Amplifier Tube Cable High Quality| | - AliExpress

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@kot  Further to your earlier inquiry, I have a set of phony AQ Dragons.  Yesterday I switched them back out for Fidelium Silversmiths, which I had previously used in my system.  The latter sound more open and less grainy to me.  Not really a close call, at least to my ears.

That's quite a video.  Thanks for sharing.  A couple of thoughts:

1. I haven't reviewed every response in this thread, but I don't recall anyone claiming that Faux-dins are physically identical to Odins. Nor do I recall anyone claiming that they sound the same.  I do recall consistent testimony that the the Faux-dins punch above their weight based on cost.

2. His video will be very useful to Chinese producers.  He gave them relatively easy to implement list of changes to align their products more closely with the original. 

3. One point, though, is well taken (though it's been made here for months):  the used market for expensive cables is now far more fraught for buyers. 

4. When did caveat emptor become fresh again?  Did we have a moment as a culture/market when we forgot?  If so, I missed it.  I do recall a period when folks thought that the then-new tech companies were more humane and less mercenary, but that didn't last and I didn't realize we had generalized.  

Feeling a bit caustic today.

This was not originally a thread about the dangers of counterfeit merch.   It was a thread about the unexpectedly high sound quality of certain obviously misbranded cables available on Ali Baba — Neardost, etc.  And it was an interesting and informative thread at that.  But then …. Well you know the rest.  Not a troll, more a toad.  Next thing I know, I’m stepping over the junkies in the streets in LA.  And I live on the east coast, so that’s no mean feat.  I do wonder, though, what is proper etiquette when one encounters junkies on the LA streets.  Perhaps different rules apply out west.  That would be good info to have prior to my next visit.