Cornwall IV vs. Volti Rival, Razz; Razz v. 1, 2, 3 -- what changed?


Looking for efficient speakers. I had the opportunity to listen to a Cornwall IV yesterday. It was run on nice tubes (Primaluna 400 EL34s) with a bluesound node streamer/dac.

QUESTION: I'm curious if anyone has compared CW IV with Volti Rival of Razz. Thoughts?

QUESTION 2: Anyone know what changed in the Volti Razz when it moved from v. 2 to v. 3?

Thanks

hilde45

Showing 5 responses by larryi

I am also a fan of horn speakers because of the superior dynamics, vivid sound and ability to deliver a soundfield that is large an enveloping.  Most horn systems, even though they are large in size, can fit well into smaller rooms because of their controlled directivity.  The higher efficiency of horn systems allow one to use the very best sounding amplifiers which are, in my opinion, low-powered tube amps.  The combination is magical.

Horns are more efficient not just because of their directivity, but primarily because they allow for more efficient transfer of the force of the movement of the diaphragm to the air.  Air is very light and offers very little resistance so energy cannot easily be transferred (think of how hard it is to throw a feather).  The mechanical resistance of the air is increased by confining it in a space to be compressed by the diaphragm.  Compression drivers utilize a small chamber behind the diaphragm to greatly increase this resistance and improve transfer of the energy (not all "horn" drivers are compression drivers, some have horns to act primarily as a wave guide).  Higher efficiency means lower amount of current running through the crossover and voice coil for any given volume level.  This reduces heating of these components.  Heating results in "thermal compression" where the higher temperature means increased electrical resistance and less current flow, and therefore less speaker movement than if the wire is subject to less heating.

There are other types of high efficiency speakers that share many of the good attributes of horn-based systems.  One can find single driver systems in quarter wave backloaded horn cabinets that are remarkably close to delivering a full spectrum sound and reasonably high volume levels.  I have heard, and like very much systems by Songer Audio, Charney Audio, and Voxativ.  I have also heard impressive systems utilizing fullrange drivers in multi-way systems so that another driver, or two, handles the extreme lows and/or highs.  The Cube Audio Nenuphar Basis is a good example (fullrange for mids and highs, powered woofer for the lows).

As for the choices mentioned my the OP, I like all three choices.  The Rival, in particular sounds good.  The Volti speakers are particularly nice sounding, although the Razz does not quite do integration of the woofer and the upper range quite as well as I would like (still, a minor issue to me given its virtues).  The Cornwall can be a touch rough sounding, but, it, like all three of these speakers, can be made to sound very good when using the right amplifiers (meaning good, low-powered tube amplifiers).  These are not speakers to stint on the quality of the amp.

One of the great advantage of high efficiency speakers is their ability to sound alive and exciting at quite low volume levels.  That is part of the reason why they work so well with SET amps.  I personally would feel comfortable with using a 2 watt amp with a 100 db/w speaker, but, I don’t listen at high levels.  If you do, be aware that a 2a3 or 45 SET might not be up to the task. 

Many good suggestions have been offered here.  I don’t think you will be disappointed with any of the Volti models, and if you can stretch to a Charney Audio Companion speaker that would be my choice.  The new Voxativ Ampeggio is another full range single driver backloaded horn system like the Charney speaker that is also very dynamic and good sounding.  I heard the PAP Trio 15s with the concentric midrange/tweeter option and I think it is one of the very best speaker I’ve heard at the $8,000 level.  I have heard the Quintet 15 with the horn driver option and it was good too.  
While not as vivid sounding as these horn and full-range driver suggestions, someone looking at high efficiency/easy to drive speakers should also hear Audio Note offerings.  They may look like ordinary box speakers, but they are among the most musically enjoyable speakers on the market.  On paper they are not extremely efficient, but I’ve heard them with SET and other lower-powered amps and they are easy to drive (Audio Note makes only low=powered amps).

Who knows what is going on and what games are being played.  Perhaps he is "crazy as a fox," as they say.

How is erasing everyone else fair?  If you care to repost your own insights that should work for me.