Considering Int. Amp w/ limited features NEED HELP


Ok, so I've been researching my ass off on an intergrated amplifier that has a lot of power, is in my price range and is highly reviewed. Originally I had my eye on the Outlaw RR2150 as it has an incredible amount of features, but it seems that the Dussun DS99 gets much better reviews, and it is the same amount of money. The only problem is that it has some key features missing that I want.

It doesn't have a remote control, but I really don't care - I tend to never use them anyway.

The two things it IS missing though that I don't know how to overcome are an input for a sub (which I don't have yet, but would like to get eventually) and any kind of tone control - just volume control.

I'm a newbie to the audiophile world who is used to a loudness control and a graphic equalizer. I'm planning on jettisoning my graphic equalizer as I move into the lower end of hifi, but to not even have a knob that can give me more or less bass or treble seems a bit scary to me as I'll be stuck with whatever comes out of the thing with nothing to adjust but volume. Is there any way around this?

Also, is there any way to later add in a sub with no sub input?

I know the obvious solution is to choose another amp that has all the features I want. If you can find me another amp for $600 (new or used) that can give 100wpc and has everything I want including stellar reviews, I'm open to hearing about it. Otherwise, I'd like to find out how to make what I'm looking at here work...
soulgoober

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Soulgoober, as I said in an earlier post ... I know exactly where you are since I was at the same place about a year ago. My research started with AudioReview.com and then migrated over here to A-gon. So many choices, and constantly finding out about something new; wanting to make just the right decision without going through the time, expense, and hassle of returning merchandise. I ordered (and returned)Axiom speaker. I installed and later gave away (to my daughter who moved to school) a pair of Ascend Acoustic speakers. I've tweaked, changed, and re-arranged my whole set-up. There have been countless hours spent trying to understand the numbers behind amplifier ratings and specs. What I can tell you is this: at some point one has to take the plunge and listen for oneself. Reviews can only tell us so much. Also, by constantly looking (or listening as it were) for something better, we confine ourselves to terminal upgrade-itis. It's never quite right, and there's always something better.

Here's the experience of a fellow A-goner:

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?vbudg&1192817636&read&3&4&

If you believe the numbers ... power rating, Signal-to-Noise ratio, etc ... the Outlaw series compare very favorably to gear costing many times more. This is the reason I chose the 200 WPC Outlaw M2200 mono-blocks. I've listened to amps in the $20K range and - though not directly an A/B comparison - the improvement is so slight/subtle as compared to the Outlaws. In fact, a close personal acquaintance was by last night. He's an accomplished pianist and owner of a higher quality Yamaha Grand. We were listening to a piano solo; and his compliment to me was how realistically my system reproduced the right tone and timbre for the piece.

If you get the Outlaw Integrated, pair it up with a TRL modified CD changer, use some decent aftermarket power cords and I/C's (Signal Cable is good at modest prices ... though there are a couple of others - Element Cable and Speltz) ... this will give you a very nice system IMHO. Add a few tweaks and then enjoy the music!
Soulgoober, sorry for the miscommunication. For the record ... I was not specifically recommending the M2200. It was a suggestion for the Outlaw product line ... in which you had particular interest in RR2150 integrated. I went through a similar exercise of counting the level of positive reviews. Again, the numbers don't lie. That's how I originally came across the Outlaw brand. I think it was an older AVR or integrated that boasted a high number of very positive reviews at the time ... that's all.