confused and don't know what to do


We would like to buy a nice audio system and also have this double as a surround sound but listening to music is the priority. We have listened to many speakers but have settled on the B&W 804's. Now the challenge is to select a receiver and all the other accompaniments we require. We have a little challenge in that our home is a condo and the outside wall is all glass. The space is combined kitchen, living room, and dining room all open with hardwood floors and hard tile on the walls of the kitchen and a lot of granite counter tops. It seems that every where we go, the recommendations are different depending on what the store is selling and of course, the sales people would like us to buy the most expensive. What would give great sound without going crazy. We are thinking about 2 tribe sub woofers and space is limited and an in wall center B&W speaker but we don't know what we are doing and don't want to throw our money away. Help! Too many choices and we don't have enough knowledge. Thank you so much.
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@millercarbon,
Your system looks fantastic and I couldn't agree with you more. There are a few dealers in this forum that are truly helpful and not constantly trying to promote products they sell. Unfortunately there is one dealer here that uses Audiogon's forum daily as a sales platform.
audiotroy,

You have every right to post in this or any public forum. Just about every post you submit reads like an advertisement, listing as many products as you can that you sell and promote. You use this forum like no other dealer does. We also have the right to show our displeasure in the way you promote your business.
 
You can choose to read our posts or not, seems like you have the time....it's completely up to you.
@mtrot

Totally respect your opinion. For a dealer to occasionally recommend a product is fine, but to promote the products he carries every day in a public forum is "pushy"......glad you're ok with it.
@audiotroy

"Rbach we write on these forums not to necessarily sell anything, we have helped clients from all over the country, and even in other countries all without selling them anything."

Mr. Lalin,  If you would like us to believe that you are participating in this forum to help clients and 'not necessarily sell anything'...think again. You search DAILY through the forum looking for sales opportunities. You have sent Private Messages to many of my friends after reading (in this forum) that they were in the market for a component. You discount the product they were considering and pitch the product YOU sell.

Everyone has the right to contribute in this public forum. It's your know-it-all attitude and pushy sales tactics that are so off putting.
It doesn't matter to Dave Lalin how many people suggest that if he toned it down, his message might be more tolerable......he just doesn't get it. In fact it fuels him to write longer promotional posts listing more and more products that he carries.

"If Rbach was trying to make a point then he could have done it succinctly and do it one time or Rbach might have just stayed out of it and let a discussion unfold."

Dave, maybe you should take your own advice and promote and post less.  

BTW, I don't know why you insist on referring to me as 'him'. Women are audiophiles too.
audiotroy,

OK so I guess you had my previous post removed so I will be very careful and only post facts and quotes. Moderators please do not remove this post.

Commenting on your constant promotional posts is not an attack. I would call your response to millercarbon more of an attack. millercarbon was kind enough to offer his response to the OP and your reply to him was.

"Actually Miller you could not be futher from the truth."

First off, you addressed millercarbon not by his handle on Audiogon but by Miller. Didn't you just say to me....

"In terms of mannors and decorum, please have the courtsey to address us by Audio Troy which is our handle on the site, we don't have your legal name listed so we address you by your handle here if you would like to provide your actual legal name then we can address you by it as well."

Secondly, (futher) is spelled further, (mannors) is spelled manners and (courtsey) is spelled courtesy.

You may not realize this, but you offended millercarbon. His passionate response to you on 2/3/20 is evidence to that. But you didn't stop there. Your reply to him on 2/4/20 was to suggest that you being a dealer meant you know way more about HT than he does....(which is not necessarily true).

"Your level of experience can not be compared with ours we builds both real Movie Theaters and we design state of the art music systems and in 30 years of professional audio experience the amount of gear we have sold, and tested and how many customers we have worked with is in the thousands."

If you can promote the products you sell on this forum then we should be able to respond in a civilized manor. As we have said before, some of us find your constant self promoting and downplaying of posters input and suggestions offensive.