Complete newbie needing guidance/purchase advice


Hi folks-

First of all, let me apologize in advance for a lengthy post. I'm a brand new forum member after recently being introduced to this site by an acquaintance who heard I was looking for sound advice... As my thread title states, I'm completely ignorant when it comes to the audiophile world, but I really want to start building a system and learn something in the process. A little background on me: I've been making a living as a recording artist and studio musician for almost 20 years, but my career choice as a music-maker has somehow ironically detached me from the simple pleasure of just sitting and _listening_ to music for the sheer enjoyment of it. My wife and I are currently in the process of remodeling our bonus room into a media room, and one of my objectives is to at the very least turn it into a space where I can do some critical listening.

I currently don't have anything decent... Just some old Bose bookshelf speakers and a Yamaha surround receiver. The closest thing to 'something decent' that I own are a pair of Etymotic ER-4S headphones coupled with a Headroom headphone amplifier.

The big limiting factor is my budget. Given that fact, maybe I have no business posting here... I will probably need to build this piece-by-piece over time, so I'm content with having to stretch the process out. I'm not concerned with having to have the 'best' of anything; I would just really like to make listening to music an engaging and emotional experience for me like it was for me many years ago.

Would a speaker purchase be a good place to start? I was perusing the Audiogon classifieds today and saw that there is actually a pair of DK Designs LSA-2's for sale local to me. The asking price is at the top of my speaker budget, a little over a grand, which I realize is probably 'chump change' in the audiophile world. However, I've read some reviews and they seem mostly positive. Would be super-convenient to be able to find something nice that was used and local, but as I said before, I'm completely new to this. Another related question: Is it better to go with floor-standing speakers, or can decent sound also be accomplished with bookshelf speakers combined with a subwoofer?

Also, what are the other 'basic' components that would need to be purchased? The only other thing I know I'd love to have would be a decent turntable; I'd love to be able to go and purchase some of my favorite classic albums to listen to once again. Do I need a separate preamp and power amp combination? Are there any 'receivers' that do a decent job of covering both tasks?

Any other feedback or direction you experts could throw my way would be greatly appreciated... Thanks in advance!
renaissanceman9

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R-man9 - Don't apologize for your budget. It is what it is. You can put together a satisfying system on a limited budget at almost (almost) any price point. So what if it isn't equal to the ultra-bucks systems posted here. You won't be a-b'ing at home. If you enjoy it, comparative performance becomes theoretical. Nobody has to like it except you. On the other hand, if you are so inclined your "ear" can be educated. You've received a lot of good input so far. If you haven't already, definitely check out "budget minded systems" on this site. Listen a lot- especially (if you can find one) at a friendly audio dealer who has your best interests in mind and is more interested in cultivating a long term customer rather than making a quick kill. Buy used. Before you buy anything, however, it might help to have an idea about your "ideal" but realistic (total $-wise) future system in mind...that is have the overall system in mind from the start and build towards it. Personally, as a first step, I'd probably upgrade speakers. Follow up with a better amp, then source. That might not be orthodoxy but it is how I'd go. Amp/speaker pairing can be an interative process (actually, over time, the entire process is). One change leads to another. FWIW - my first glimpse of "good sound" was from a Superex headphones and an HH Scott receiver back in 1970. Kid in high school. No money and my folks weren't about to buy a stereo for me. Spent a lot of time listening to "underground FM" back in the day. Good luck. I'll be interested in reading any future posts as to what you end up doing.
PS - Dude! My apologies!! An oversight on my part. I did not completely read your post. If you've been working in the biz that long, your ear probably don't need no educatin'. Trust it!

OK - posting additional opinion and further cause for immolation by the audiophile-elite that reside here, I'd recommend working towards efficient 2-way floor standers and an integrated tube amp. Integration of a sub w/monitors can be a PITA. "Used for all" is the operative phrase.

R-man9-
What were the components in your friend's system? Maybe if you post those, they will give some here a better idea about how to guide you.

Your $2K initial budget is larger than I expected. If you buy used I'm pretty sure you'll be able to put something together that will sound great. I know I said go for speakers first, but with that amount I might be tempted to split it and see what options $1000 each for amp and speakers gave me.
Sorry - haven't heard any of the 3 speakers you mentioned. If you do get to hear them, see if you can bring them home to audition w/your amp and in your space. OR, failing that and if it isn't too much of a pain, drag your Yamaha along and listen to 'em on that.
Unsound - Nice stuff! Next time I get the yen to upgrade, I think might be asking you for some advice.
Stringreen - just curious. Of the 4 systems you have posted which was the first, how much did it cost and how long to get there before you were able to say, "this is it, I don't need anything more"? Or am I misunderstanding your guidance?
Stringreen - My mistake. I looked at your system photo thumbnails and thought you had 4 different systems! That aside, while I agree with your caution to the OP about wasting money on "interim junk" I have to agree somewhat with Toddnkaya. The "you people" comment does rankle and smacks of elitism. I doubt you really think a system can't deliver the music unless it crosses some threshold $ investment level that you approve. Another point I'd like to make is, justification for spending at a given level ought to require education. I've found it necessary to go through an interative process to validate ultimate buying decisions. I doubt you arrived at your preferred system in one step nor would I expect you to recommend the equipment you put together as the preferred system for everyone. I think intermediate/transient gear is an important part of the process.

Hope that makes sense. A Merry Christmas to you and yours. If you celebrate something else, my sincere wishes for happiness in that.