Comparison between Sunfire and REL subs ????


Having heard a Sunfire Architectural Signature Sub. I was curious as to what the difference is between this sub and a comparable unit made by REL? Sound being most important. Would also like to know about build quality and price too.
zenieth

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I am currently using a stereo pair of The Sunfire Signature sub with my MG 3.5/R with excellent results. Properly configured and positioned Sunfire Signatures are very musical, extended with excellent definition and articulation.

I found the Sunfire mcuh easier to blend than the RELs (Strata, Storms, Stadiums) in my listening room (suspended wood floor). The down firing RELs were always too "boomy" and were difficult to integrate because of the absence of a continuously variable phase control (either 0/180 degrees). Whereas, the Sunfire's Phase control can be varied continuously (from 0 to 180)

I feel very strongly, that the negative propaganda re the Sunfire subs, are mostly due to poor placement (need to be away from room boundaries) and incorrect setup (volume too high, phase not properly adjusted).

In my experience, the Sunfire Signature is better in every respect (except for appearance) than the Architectural series. The Architectural series is not as extended and does not have the same sense of ease and control.
I agree with Phasecorrect that there is some element of snobbery towards the Sunfire products by some in the so-called "high-end" community. I have a good friend who works for a top high-end store in NYC. He laughed at me when I told him that I had bought a pair of Sunfire Signatures (he had tried to sell me the REL Strata III, Storm III and the Stadium II, he has since "seen the light" much to his chagrin). I could never (to my satisfaction) blend, successfully, the RELs with my highly modified Magnepan 3.5/R. The RELs were too "boomy" in my listening room and relied mainly on placemnent for blending due to the absence of a continuously variable Phase control. The Sunfire Signatures were a revelation in terms of their ability to be seamlessly integrated with my maggies. I was surprised by the thigh, defined, smooth and dynamic bass reproduction. The Subs were dead quiet (no audible hum). The blend is so seamless that you cannot detect, easily, the presence of the subwoofer.

With the stereo Sunfire Subs, and my maggies, I have been approximating the performance of the "mega-bucks" speaker systems. In my room, I have almost flat response from about 16Hz to 20kHz. The bottom line is that the Sunfire Subs have enhanced, greatly, my enjoyment of the music.
I could care less about the opinions of those who propagate the negative propaganda about a very fine product.
Zenieth: Congratulations. I am happy that you used your own ears to make your purchasing decision. Ultimately, that is what matters. As you can see from this forum, opinions are "dime-a-dozen".

When properly integrated with the maggies, you will have a full range system which will make beautiful music, that will be hard to beat for under $10k.

Amen!