I am also one who ever owned Audio Refinement complete and upgraded to ECI-3. I bought used ECI-3 in mint condition(100 hours)at USD.660 in Thailand. ECI-3 give me wider soundstage, good focus not dark like AR when it drive Sound Dynamic RTS3 with Ovals 9 and Blue Heaven interconnect. I thinks it best deal for me. For new Plinius 8150 cost about USD.2000, may be Jadis Orchestra Reference will be deal about USD.1600
