Coincident Total Reference = any thoughts

Total Reference, now discontinued had a ribbon tweeter, four midrange drivers and four 12" woofers and was 95 db efficient.
The Pure Reference uses a ceramic tweeter, ceramic midrange and two 12" woofers. It is around 93 db eficient.
Both use the same size cabinet and first order crossovers and are a fairly flat impedance, thus are quite easy to drive.
I have not heard either of them but own Total Victories and have heard the TV's at Israel Blume's (owner of Coincident) home. When I get some time I plan to hear the pure reference.

Both the TR's and PR's are wonderfully dynamic and articulate loudspeakers. The TR has a bit more mid/bass weight (presence) and the PR a bit more clarity (definition).
Your tastes and system will determine which speaker you would prefer. If you are interested I have a TR for sale.
I have just moved to a smaller home (retirement) and the TR's or PR's are just too big for my wife, without a dedicated listening room. Please see my ad under Coincident.
Thanks.

I cannot recommend a speaker more highly. The female voice is reproduced impeccably. In orchestral works, each instrument is seemingly isolated. I purchased the Total Reference and the Frankenstein amps and have NEVER looked back. There is an immediacy and presence that I have never experienced in a system. My collection is primarily vinyl and it has literally "come to life."

I find it incomprehensible that the Total Reference speakers that are currently for sale have not been snatched up. These are currently THE BEST deal on Agon.

I cannot imagine that the Pure Reference is substantially better than the Total Reference in view of the fact that discontinuation of an element forced the redesign. I certainly cannot imagine that the difference would justify the $11,000.00 price difference if you were to buy the pair on Agon.

I do not know this seller, I am not trying to make the sale for him. If I were in the market, I would buy these speakers in a heartbeat. I am an ENTHUSIASTIC owner of these speakers and I am just trying to "spread the good word."

Jhzoller, could you tell us which element on the TR was discontinued? Presumably mid drivers, since the TV4 use the same ribbon, and the PR use the same woofer.

It was my impresion that the carbon fiber midrange elements were deleted. I saw that the new TV uses the same ribbon.