Coincident Linestage vs CJ CT5 or Allnic L-3000

Last post... Hi Jeff; actually I never heard the CSL partnered with Frankestein or similar tube amps (I also find very attractive the partnership with Coincident's Dragon).
My other listening experiences with CSL in my friend's listening room were with Viola Bravo (in two cases) and Krell FPB monos.
Just to let you know that I take a look to your listening room that is extremely similar to mine (mine is significantly smaller but with the same proportions and same unusual ceiling; 15 x 20 ft. approx and ceiling 7,4 to 16,5 ft).
best
Marco

The thread seems oriented towards the fine tuning and amelioration of the Statement through better 101d's tubes.
neverthless I add my experience, I recently had the opportunity to compare in my system Allnic L-3000 and Coincident statement (the latter I listened previously in two friend's systems). Both are not imported here in Italy; test were not side to side but in two different days. obviously same configuration, identical cables, same music etc.
My reference was my linestage Aria WV11XL (the Mike Elliott's design), power amp is again from Elliott an hybrid Altavista NP220 premium (400kohm impedance).
I had great expectations and I was not disappointed, I listened to two fantastic preamps and among the very best to find on the market in a reasonable class of price.
Sonic charachter was slightly different; timbre and texture was a tiny better with Allnic that shows a very nice balance and better coherence from bottom to end. Both linestage have a truly first class detail; especially during the adagios in classical music they are absolutely superb revealing minimal ambience details and great focus. I find some difference in presentation of music, which is (very slightly) more advanced with Allnic and more distant with the Canadian product.
In some symphonic program I would prefer a similar presentation as the Statement performance, since I’m used to listen from 3rd to 10th row at concert’s hall but this is only my taste...
Coincident is undoubtly much faster; it’s easy to hear with some piano solos or acoustic guitar when it sounds fantastic, otherwise it’s sometimes slightly edgy in the upper treble; some unobtrusive sibilance appears occasionally so I suggest that it will be partnered with more caution with the rest of a system.
On the other side Allnic L-3000 was a better choice with choir and opera voices, more clear and refined..
On the dynamics side they are both excellent (along with my Aria); in my tests all units were very similar in gain configuration (approx. 18-20 db gain). I must tell that the Statement unit I had was also occasionally sensitive to RFI and loop mass noises.
In the subjective external appearance I find better refined the chassis of the Korean Allnic; which is clearly better thanks having a remote controlled volume, 5 inputs and a tape loop; the Coincident statement has only two inputs... very poor in flexibility also considering that it costs about half a price of Allnic...
But.. about sound quality I would be very hesitant to make a choice.. both absolutely excellent.
Just my twocents.
Marco

Thank Charles
I forgot to write that the CSL in my hand was indeed a unit with two years life and stock tubes.
Also interesting about my test it's the different tube approach of the three linestages:
CSL uses an unusual old tube and you can improve it with the new Western Electric production.
Aria WV11XL is a chameleon-like electronics, since it can use more than 20 (twenty!) different tubes and this cause a great change of nuances in details, dynamics (gain may vary from 12 up to 30 db) and timbre.. so is a very unusual product which can be adapted to all tastes; neverthless is the only of the three with a very high output impedance (3-4000 ohm) that force to find a partner power amp with at least 200-300kohm input impedance...
At the end there's the Allnic where you must use the stock tubes and forget all about tube rolling.
Three different approach; three different scaling price (CSL 5500 USD; ARIA with all options was sold at 8800 USD and ALLNIC now raised at 11900 USD).
My preference will go with a very little margin to CSL and L-3000 against my WV11; neverthless they are all excellent performers.
my best
Marco

Yes Charles a partner with Krells it's actually unusual.
Sound is good (fantastic in dynamics) but I find it sometimes aggressive in mid-highs and with a great (maybe too much) punch in bass region.
Owner use a PC+DCS Puccini Dac combo and speakers are Coincident pure reference Extreme (the version with separate stands for mid-highs).
About SS I find that Viola Bravo is in another superior league but it's also very very expensive.
Best from Italy
Marco

Yes Charles, you remember correctly; this is one of the two systems I mentioned above. Listened in 2013; source was PC + DCS Vivaldi and speakers were Evolution Acoustics MM3; no doubt that this was my best experience in audio in many many years.
Marco

Hello folks! I ended buying used the statement linestage so me top I joined the Coincident family...
I have a question. I notes thatboth xlr connections (input and output) have reversal + and - pin (as also Accuphase and a few other brands have). This cause a slight loss of focus in soundstage and a lightweight bass.
All my sources are connected through RCA but towards linestage to Power amp (standard pin) I use a balanced cable.
I suspect that this is a situati on of 90° reversed polarity. And reverse the speaker polarity cable will not resolve the matter.
Do you have some experience or suggestione to try?
Thanks in advance!
Marco