Coax Internet Cable: If I have to build one, what am I looking for exactly?


I am considering picking up an audio-grade coax cable to connect the internet wall outlet to the modem. My suspicion is that the digital coax cable that sits between the wall and modem is the same coax cable that feeds into a DAC--but with different connectors. I believe the standard coax connector to feed a DAC is the RCA connector while I need a Type-F connector to feed a coax-based internet service into the modem. 

I haven't seen anything on this forum on this topic. I also don't see any audio brands offering premade coax internet cables (e.g. http://thecableco.com).  

If I have to build my own coax cable to feed into the modem, what am I looking for? AQ has 3 connector offerings, including Type-F, for both 18 AWG and 24 AWG sizes. And their respective 18 AWG and 24 AWG pages list their compatible bulk cable being either "HD6" or "ITA, ITV or MAC 24". 

I figure that I might as well build a coax cable to feed into the DAC while I'm at it. It looks like the HD6, ITA, or ITV are made for different applications. From their price book, AQ says that HD6 is for "Video, RF, Digital, Subwoofer" while ITA is for analog and ITV is for video. From this info, I believe the HD6 bulk cable would be ideal to both feed a modem and a DAC. 

So, here are the main questions:

  1. Anyone know of any premade coax internet cables?
  2. If I need to build my own coax cables to feed the modem and DAC, does the info above look correct?
  3. Can anyone share their experience building coax cables?
  4. Can anyone share their experience upgrading their coax internet cable?
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Showing 9 responses by lowrider57

Call or email this company and ask if this filter will work with your setup. Link to follow.

I'm now using a Brickwall surge protector with RFI/EMI filtering and have  my router and desktop plugged in.

The lines from the cable, sat, etc companies carry a high amount of RFI. Even if your new coax provides improved sound, the same amount of noise is being carried to your system. Add an RFI filter to your hookup. I use a RFI/EMI filter on my router which lowered the noise-floor in my streaming.

@oldhvymec  No, I didn't hear noise. But I used an RF "sniffer" which indicated high levels of RF at the coax entry point to the house, on the coax line along the floor, and at the router. After filtering, testing indicated no RF anywhere. When listening to Qobuz via Bluesound Node2i I noticed more clarity and detail, very audible. Also using CAT8 from Verizon router to Node.

Could be the connection from the FIOS box. I shouldn't have said "where the coax enters the house," I forgot about the Verizon hookup. I detect RFI in the coax line as it travels from basement to first floor.

I'm using a small RFI detector with an antenna and sensitivity control. It's also used to sniff out hidden cameras and bugs. I lent it to a friend, he had the same results of RF detected in coax and router.

Coax may be well insulated and shielded, but these cable companies manage to send noise thru the lines.

I can tell you there are a breaks along the way from the head end. And cable installers who kluge parts on the pole. Of course a pure signal is generated from the plant. I don't know exactly where it gets picked up, like you said, from loose or unterminated connections.

 

And how do you know there aren't. So you worked in cable, I worked in broadcast. Noise enters the signal path in some way. I'm not saying every dwelling in the country has an issue.

Interesting. As I stated I used a consumer device and all I was hoping for was a close measurement of RFI. The fact that my friend in a different city had RF on his coax line and router indicates interference is finding an entry point somewhere, somehow. With all the RFI around us, some cables have the potential to act like an antenna and I've never seen evidence that coax is capable of this. 

I live in a city rowhome in an old neighborhood where some houses aren't even grounded. Now we have FIOS, new transformers on the block, but my electrician tells me these homes with old wiring can be polluting the mains for each neighbor. I'm giving you some background on the level of noise possible in our mains. I'm only guessing that being in a large city there's some way RFI is entering the cable feed.