Very beautiful version but a mass of requiem and no more a drama and a spiritual theater...
It is like Bohm version a mass not an opera....I dont claim that it is not beautiful, it is....
But moving us nearer the abyss of fear and redemption at the same time, i only feel it with the Hogwood version....
By the way this work is like the art of the fugue, so much deep and beautiful, i collect all version and like them all....
But for the art of the fugue of Bach i like much the Neville Mariner version for example amongst them all ... Not because it is the better one, not at all, but because it make possible and more easier to listen to this everest of music one thousand time at least....
The variety of instruments used and the their limited numbers at the same time and the alternate parts with only harpsichord or organ is wonderful idea of Mariner...It make this abstract algebraic musical geometical feat lanscape a more human easy to grasp landscape...
«If you feel happy but dont feel death you are not near a volcano»-Anonymus Volcanologist
I like this French version of the Mozart .
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Mozart was like us, ordinary human, thinking about death with fear and hope at the same time...I dont think that we must fear death, i think the the animal in us fear death...And the Mozart spiritual drama is yes first a mass but more than that a spiritual opera about the animal who fear death and the children who hope in spite of death in us......The Hogwood version make this very sensible and very clear it is more than a mass...We dont lack beautiful masses , we lack spiritual opera though...
For Schubert no one would deny that here the human heart incarnate himself in music score....He was so talented but so receptive that S. created you are right one of the most "humanly music" ever written... His choral and lieders are testimony of his greatness over almost everyone else...I dont even think that someone is over Schubert for creating more beautiful singing music...Save Mozart beside him....
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I think you are right for Madama Butterfly...
Thank you to understand my perspective...
I like to discuss ... It is my Achiles heel....
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I rarely encounter a man so mature and deep in all fields of human interest than Pascal...
Reading him is a stunning awakening on all scale...And he was the greatest prose french writer , he transform french prose in an "art of the fugue"...
There is a deep link between Bach music and Pascal thinking...Even if more than 20 years separate the death of one and the birth of the other...
The audible presence of God in the music of Bach answer to the more than probable existence of the Designer in his famous mathematical "wager" and the inner heart consuming fire of love in man....
The wager idea was never understood clearly by most thinkers....Most said that this was a very simplistic argument about God existence...
But it was never intended to be an argument, but a little spark of fire able to ignite the whole world... Why?
Because if someone is able to think about the infinite only one time he will never be able to erase the idea or this experience after it was born in him...
The wager is the wood, and the stones which rubbed with one another will ignite a fire...it is more potent than the St Anselm ontological argument, because it is an appeal to an existential gesture of the thinking...Not only a logical argument....
If you create the idea of infinity one time in your imagination, going back before this moment will become for ever impossible...
Like in the history of mathematic the creation by Cantor of the infinite actualities...
I am surprized that there is no musical work i know of dedicated to Pascal....
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Leibniz improved the computing machine created by Pascal and designed his own one and created the calculus after reading Pascal..Leibniz was very admirative of Pascal genius ...
What is stunning is less the I.Q. of Pascal than his very mature deep thinking in all matter, spirituality included... Even Kafka or Borges could have learned from Pascal imagination of the infinites manifested in every day life mysteries....
Brahms is so great musician and serious spirit i am not surprized that he appeciated Pascal....His creation for chorus are my favorite works...And i am in love with Zymerman/Bernstein concerto number 2 for piano....Because of Zymerman subtle magical touch more than for Bernstein whom is great here for sure...
This work for me embodied late popular 19 century "salon" romanticism...Just a so beautiful concerto that make shadow on many others ...Some work are so perfect that listening anything ressembling them after them is very difficult...I never was able to replace this concerto by anything else in my heart....
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This particular flabbergasting and imperative supreme interpretation save me from my Brahms obsession about my favorite piano concerto the second one...
Played like this Beethoven shine like perhaps never before and like rarely after....The pianist is mature and stupendous by his sense of hues and power ... At the level of the few giants of the piano...
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It never listened to him...
It seems pretty great pianist too...
RIP.
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I have the Scarlatti collection of Ross's and very rewarding it is although many of the individual sonatas may be played with more panache by other soloists the collection as a whole is a great recording achievement.
I listen to it right now.... I like the sound and interpretation... I dream to bought a piano integral also.... |
Vladmir Feltsman
Truly great pianist, love his Bach, Chopin, Beethoven, Scriabin.
His Well tempered klavier and Goldberg are my favorite at last..... |
You are right schubert about SS fearing most the canadians... The most extraordinary canadian in the war liberated one city from SS by himself... His story made Rambo a chicken....His story is too incredible in world war II and korean war to be believed in a movie .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFf1UfVa8Lc |
Wow.... Incredible story.... thanks shubert.... |
For me the greatest 5 is Bruckner....
Some French critic named it the "art of the symphony" like Bach has written the art of the fugue...
The final movement is for me the greatest fugue written after Bach... An astonishing powerful fugue resuming all preceding themes like all life is resumed in one singular multidimensional vision after death....
Astonishing when we learned that Bruckner study counterpoint with Schubert old master at the time with complete interdiction to wrote anything save counterpoints for the time of the study... I think Bruckner was pass his thirty years...After the 5 Bruckner wrote master pieces after masterpiece but this 5 was more "modern" in so much aspect paradoxically than the remaing next 4.... The perfect fusion of the past ancient music and the future of music perhaps...For sure this 5 changed my life, 35 five uears ago....
Bruckner is indeed my supreme master symphonist and i think Beethoven spoke and said to me that i was right but immediately he boast about his chamber music to change a tactful delicate subject....
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Very great choice.... Thanks for the link.... Barbirolli is the proof that some of the highest genius are not enough known.... Sibelius is a great poet like Mahler....
If Mahler is a poet, Bruckner is more a mystic and a projective geometer.... I love the 2 but Bruckner changed my life.... Mahler make it more beautiful....i am in love with all his lieder tough more even than with his marvellous movements in his symphonies... There is a unity of thinking in Bruckner 5 for me that override anything save Bach affine geometry.... |
We can all beat our own character.... But in music it is very slowly like in life....
We cannot change our inclination and taste, but we can open our mind.... It is difficult i confess... For example Stravinsky is evidently a genius in music but dont spoke to me deeply...
I was a dreamer nothing will change that then i perfectly understand what you just said about your soldier character... |
My favorite piano concerto is his second... 😁😊
And his requiem is so great ... His vocal compostion mastery is equal to Schubert...
I cannot contradict you about Brahms..
When i listen to him he appear like you say no doubt...
If they had the Top Ten composers of yore , Brahms would be in my top 5 .
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Thanks i did not know this maestro in Bruckner....
interesting story behind the cd.... |
BTW, Brahms couldn’t see anything in Bruckner either.
Even genius own an ego... Bruckner is the greatest symphonist, and Mahler was in the obligation to reinvent it in his own way to be there.... I love the 2 but Bruckner is a geometer and a poet, Mahler a poet... |
This is my idea of can not be better , totally different and I weep when I hear this adagio !
https://youtu.be/GbtCChVk0lA?t=3
P.S. Whenever I see Ormandy I think, now there is a honest man .
WOW! i will go look for all Celidache set Barber +Shostakovtich... Staggering difference between these 2 marvellous interpretation... In one, Ormandy, my heart is feeling embedded in time, the tragedy is out there again filling me completely like water filled a cup...It is like re-living the event in this life, a living memory which accompanies me... In the other, Celibidache, the tragedy is there, but completely transcended, and the feeling is now a participating wave in eternity.... It is like living the event after our death revealing all truth about it.... These 2 are the best interpretation i listen to for this Barber masterpiece....Impossible to chose between these 2.... Thanks schubert for the discovery.... |
I love Barber piece.... It is difficult to embody so well a pure feeling....I listen my own heart here, it is more than listening only casual music....
Only the greatest geniuses in music succeeded doing that...
Sometimes there is a tragic front side to pure beauty, it is like beauty walking and elevated to truth...Like Michelangelo Pieta....
It will be difficult to surpass the "spoken" articulation of the Ormandy orchestra like the flowing waving of the clothes fabric telling their own tale in the Pieta .... |
Schubert, your statement that our genre chooses us, as opposed to we choosing our genre has been verified.
This is exactly what the great poet Holderlin describe in his essay about "poetic experience"... Very deep reading for me..... |
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I cannot stop before letting you know this one of Pavel... Seems marvellous after 2 minutes...
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This Pavel so marvellous had a Brother Antonin...
Is his brother a genius too?
to be continued............... 😁😊
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The latest, Greatest Beethoven Piano Sonatas in the History of the Whole World.
If you disagree, see my guru. He lives in Brooklyn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfnbe6JI6s
Cheers For sure Levit so good it is dont own the integrated phrasing of Moravec, making of some words an only one sentence... The notes must never succeed one another, but vertically must surge toward the transcendental meaning that will going down incarnating itself in the sound like the soul in a body ... Moravec get it for me.....All is done way before the first minute of playing... How is it possible for a human being to play piano at all? Probably only by forgetting completely how to play and only feel an emotion not through the fingers but in spite of them, or better, without them.... It is only my opinion, feel free to say your own..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ex7ZVaSVCE |
Lenny and Ochida being prime examples. No one can feel that much passion, instantly on command. Have you ever make love with someone you are confortable with? The public disapear for some artist which are only with themselves and their own "daimon", and the feeling which inhabit and haunted them for a work they feel already for a long time is not "on command"....It is like jazz players mimics and odd gestures singing behind and tapping feet.... |
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Seems more and more like a genius...
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Excellent composer, preferred by Haydn and Beethoven for conducting his works. (Wikipedia)
viva Moravia!
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Another:
Pre 1600 !!!!! Stunning use of chromaticism and dissonance:
One of my favorite composer... the Scriabin of the human voices.... He wrote like Scriabin not to move the human heart only but to make it more vast and livelier... Monteverdi use his art to express all there is, he create opera, but Gesualdo sometimes tear the human heart in two parts...One who suffers and the other who recreate.... Thanks for the magnificent unknown to me French interpretation... |
Bach is so great that we tend to act as if classical started with him .
Truth is that from the 11th to 15th century there were composers at his level but they wrote things we don't listen to much today, as in religious
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You are right... Obrecht and Tallis and one hundred other geniuses... Hildegard of Bingen is older but what a creative mind... |
If you want to know if your system is good acoustically... Listen to the voices surrounding you in this magnificent recording...A studio recording where the singers walk and plays together, one can hear when they turn their head singing... in some part the voices come from behind my back... The interpretation is in german inimitable... One of my loved modern opera....With the Busoni Faust.... The soul of an era.... Kurt weill with Lotte Lenya the best recording of the three pennies opera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR33bL5aNTk&t=850s |
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Interesting!
I will listen Parry choral and symphonies... Thanks..,.
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A one hour piano lesson by the greatest teacher of piano in the last century if we take the ratio : greatest pianists student/common teacher as a rule... Heinrich Neuhaus.... His personal life is a teaching about life also.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzMsqH1j8tc This video is not "good" and difficult to watch but lesson of the Great Neuhaus are rare... Here more easy and not less interesting the "not russian" but great Pollini speaking and playing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMpcUEVijyE |
Great post!
I cannot resist to say that a man able to argue against Newton with success in his own field cannot be call wrong often....
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I remember the first time i listened to Tallis in awe...24 years old 46 years ago....With my mentor audiophile friend now deceased.... With the "oceanic" interpretation of the Cambridge Choir... We were flabbergasted to say the least .... This one with the small group of the Kings singers is very interesting, we listen more easily all simultaneous lines... I had all Tallis works.....Only Purcell is on par with him in England for me and very few other one ..... The 2 are stupendous geniuses.... Cambridge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iHunHKvKd4 King singers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJDLQZWKWe8&t=63s By the way this piece of music give a taste with only various melodic lines of the synchronised synesthesia of music in heaven.... Dont take my words listen to it... Rivaling with Bach and perhaps beating him at his game is difficult....Listen Bach motets to live the same experience with Gustav Leonhardt interpretation.... Or Gardiner... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ00agLjPT0 |
eioI love Sofronitsky.I have several collections of his recordings, including Melodiya, Vista Verdi, Brilliant Classics, and Denon (which is Japanese I believe). I find all of his recordings wonderful. Technically, some are better than others, but the playing is uniformly superb. He also recorded with the Beethoven Quartet (Oistrakh, Gilels, Sofronitsky & Mershavov). Victor Merzhanov a disciple of Feinberg is indeed a giant himself just beside Neuhaus and Sofronitsky my favorite god.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B6MU3A61rc The Feinberg sonatas by the way are unknown treasures of modern piano..... |
Great post....
Dvorak is a genius for always underestimated...
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Discovered a new Russian pianist sofja gulbadamova playing Brahms string sextet 1 in b flat piano version on IDAGIO
I thought her playing was inspired and imaginative. Thoughts ?
Album called Hungarian melody Judging by this piece only i think you are right about her...To say the least....for me here his playing has a "dreamlike" character that is like enchantment....A genius.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b60e6adUUaA |
One of my favorite violonist of all time is Arthur Grumiaux... I am drugged by his tone and light... When you listen to him you dont hear a virtuoso at all.... You see colors....And colors sings.... I cannot even recommend one album , perhaps Bach violin concertos the best ever....Or anything by this illuminated master.... Superlative artistry beyond most.... Try Mozart and dont listen to the sound look for the colors and light: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjrM9l4AsXE Same light with different colors here in Handel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leHBstDPPOs |
Badura-Skoda in Mozart is my first choice, in spite of all others pianists interpretation...
The reason is simple,Mozart wrote his pieces on this instrument and it is evident by the hard contrasts this instrument made possible to express...
The Schubert is very interesting ....
I will recommend the Mozart like an absolute must.....
Anyway a very great instrumennt well served by a musician of the first order....
Peace to his soul.....
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Chopin loved and played and made his students play the works of JS Bach. This predestined fate of each chord in Chopin comes from rigorous meditation of Bach written script.... Chopin is greater than what the beauty of his melodies speak about : the human heart... He is a mathematical musical brain genius like Bach... We feel Bach all along listening Chopin.... Chopin listened the marvellous nocturnes of the great pianist Field with the Bach tutoring, and the rest is history.... Before Chopin there is Field.... Nobody ever written so heartful melodies balancing heart and breathing in this way , Field did this the first... Chopin listened and with the great tools inherited from Bach transform what the genius playing of Field on the new piano instrument created to more developed strongly written works and not only marvellous inspired almost improvised melodies and chords... But we must listen to Field to know where Chopin begin using Bach track and to understand what was Chopin debt to Bach... Whatever the genius is, the greatest geniuses stand on the shoulders of other geniuses back in time....Field is a genius but Chopin is almost a god standing of the shoulders of these two.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEUGj9mPg2w |
It is the best interpretation i know....
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Great job rok2id...
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Ivan Moravec playing Beethoven.
One CD holds the Pathetique, Moonlight, Les Adieux, and no. 27 sonatas, and 32 Variations.
The recording quality is very good. Moravec's contrasts between p and f are quite striking, as are his sometimes quite extreme contrasts in tempo.
Overall a fascinating listen.
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Now i will propose to you a listening experiments with three versions of the same piece of Liszt "the evening bells"...
The first version with a good pianist...
The second one with a great pianist....The beautiful one...
And the third one with a god pianist, one of the supremum few one... The eepest version the more moving one....He is so in love with this piece that he repeat it two times...We dont listen here to a beautiful sound only like in the second case but to a pure emotion emerging with his own time flowing in eternity...
Judge by yourself....
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