Classic Rock Listener - Help me build my system


It's a Saturday evening, Got my equiptment all warmed up,
put on a Yes, Led Zepplin, Moody Blues, Nektar, etc.( or almost any of my late 60s thru 70s ), kick back in my chair
and am disappointed time after time at the lack of enjoyment I'm getting from all this equiptment I've invested in. As a music LOVER, I admit I am not all that knowledgeable about the equiptment and what matches what.
I have a Krell KAV-300, Sunfire Classic tube Preamp, into a Mark Levinson 331 into Legacy Sig.III. Using Audioquest Crystal2/Forest biwire and Cardas Quadlink 5c connects.I need much advice as to what to change out of system and what to replace with other than my Sig IIIs. The sound mostly seems dark with a fatigueing hardness if you can believe that. I like to somewhat crank but the more I do the more those negatives increase. Any advice?
daveheine

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This response is to thank all that posted for their support and POSITIVE advice and to Stiltskin........ Your not the type of person Im interested in getting advice from...
you know, the "I'm somehow superior because I'm ABOVE listening to that "Rock and Roll". Also,you dont know me or what I listen to or dont listen to so do me a favor and leave out the personal BULL#$%^ and If you havent anything positive to help me with then stick a violin up your....!
ROCK ON!
Thanks for the advice. I learned quite a bit just reading those 3 posts. I forgot to mention that I do have everything on a dedicated line into a Monster 2000 and the room is average size ( 14 x 16 or so) with the left side open to living room. Moving the speakers around is difficult with the Audioquest garden hoses so Im going to replace those first for that reason alone. They really put a strain on the speaker lugs. John, I like the phono idea and its something I was going to add to the system after I get things to sound right for my Cds because I've got a huge collection from that era compared to the vinyl I own.
Prior to getting the equiptment listed above, I was just using a Sunfire Sig amp into the classic preamp and into a pair of Pinnacle Reference speakers and a Pinnacle 350 sub using the Krell cd player, using Nordost Blue Heaven all around and I swear it sounded noticably
better. Seems like every review I read on different equiptment, the guy doing the review evaluates the stuff based on critical listening type music instead of how it does good ole' classic rock. I don't really need my stuff to ace jazz or orchestra music, I want it to KILL when I put on Aphrodites Child (the 4 horsemen). I have been told more than a few times that the Theta Miles is a cd player to try. Going from that Sunfire amp to the ML 331 might have been a change for the worse too cause that Sunfire
Seemed to have much better bottom end and could really crank. Anyway, thanks for the input and I'll just keep
tryin'.
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John,
If your still checking this thread, I'd like to get an idea of what price range it would take to get close to the best out of my albums in terms of a table, arm, and cartridge.
Would somewhere around $ 1,500 get me there. I'm not up on
what name tables and arms to look for. How good is VPI?
Dave
Man- the knowledge within the posts is incredible to me.
Sean, you mentioned something in your post about using a single run for the speakers instead of biwiring. That really struck me because I have found that to be true for my ears and that is why the first move I'm making is to sell my Audioquest and trying a pair of single Nordost Blue Heavens or maybe the SPM. Probably the Blue Heavens first.
But your overall post has a lot of great info for me and I thank you for all of it.
And John,
Thanks too for the interest. As far as the Legacys go, I just got them and I have read much about how well they perform for my type of music which leads me to want to try looking at, say the Krell Cd, and the Cardas cables, along with the ML amp. I think if I replace those properly it will go a (hopefully) long way towards my goal. I thought the Pinnacle, Sunfire setup I had before was better but I didnt mean that it was good enough. I just wanted, like everybody else, to continue to improve my system. I probably made a huge mistake like you guys said: changing too many things at once. Now Im less dazed and confused, but this thread will help me 100 times more than anything else I could have tried. Nothing better that listening and learning from informed people, especially those familiar with the components I've listed. I'm not wealthy, but Spending money for audio in this price range isn't a problem and it's also a VERY enjoyable hobby. Can any one suggest what CD player to try as I am convinced that the Krell I have is a big part of my problem. Based upon using the Sig iii, the Sunfire Sig amp, and Nordost cable.
I think the best , first 2 things to do are the get the Nordost and CD player. And then the amp. I also didn't mean that I wanted a bass heavy system, just that PUNCH! I got that with the Sunfire amp and Pinnacle sub. Nor is the system I have now TOO bassy, just too dark (warm) and hard in the midsection. I've read a lot of opinions about the Theta Miles for Rock. Thats the one I may get next unless someone convinces me of another unit.
Thanks everybody!
Reb1208,
When you suggested using light guage copper cables:
Would the Nordost fall into that catagory and if not, do you have a cable recommend? I'd like to know about combining the bi-wire leads to one post. Is that different than using the external jumpers?
Thanks,
Dave
Reb1208,
Once I get my cables changed out and get a CD player, I'm going to do that and run single cable. When the time comes, I might send you an email if thats OK to make sure I do it right.
John,
That's what I meant in my original post when I said "if you can believe that" about being dark sounding with the hard "in your face" mids. I know they usually dont go together, but thats what I'm hearing time after time.
By, the way, i'm not Rock only. Love to listen to Poco,Heartsfield,
James Taylor, LRB, type music as well as some Tony Bennett,
Sinatra, Big Band (Ted Heath doing Miller is sweet). I might try that CD player you suggested also. I guess there are no Theta Miles fans reading this? I know getting rid of that ML331 is going to benefit too. Thanks to all for the input, except for one. After I make some of the suggested changes I'll report back. Sure is fun though!
Dave
Sean,
I bought the speakers used from someone close by who purchased them new 2 yrs. ago. He also had a control knob installed in back of each but Im not sure what its for. Plus the 4 switches also makes things more confusing trying to find the best position for each, but until I fix the other stuff, the switches and which position is the least of my problem. I do switch the rear tweeter on which helps a little.
I have about 4 to 5 ft. between amp and speakers.
Sorry to Reb1208 about the misquote.
Dave
John, That address pulled up an expired listing. Did you find a turntable you liked by browsing through that section?
Dave