certin speaker makers harder to get dissounts fro

Bigjoe and Rcprince are greatly mistaken about the realities of retail. THe higher ticket items are often at lower dealer margins because the manufacturer assumes the higher actual dollar figure taken in offsets the lower margin. Fact.

Brands that have a %60 margin or greater are often from borderline generic companies that do inflate the retail price to make the high percentage discount appear like a great deal.

Please refer to the post by Lush if you want some useful information. If you enjoy this hobby support it. If you don't support your local music scene you will get no good local live music. If you do not support your local restaurants you will have Hardees and Ruby Tuesdays. If you don't support your local furniture/clothing/stereo store you will have Wal-Mart.

For those who will be content with an Audiovox boombox after hi-fi is dead I say "beat those greedy stereo retailers into submission and get your stereo at cost while you can."

Some manufacturers do protect their dealers and their brand by having strict no-discount rules. Many of the brands mentioned above have these rules in their dealer agreements. This is why you will be hard pressed to find them at the same bargain discounts as brands like Pinnacle, BIC, and Cerwin-Vega.

End of rant.

When customer X comes into the store and is in love with speaker Y that he read a glowing review of in publication Stereophile do I start lugging the box out to his car with my pocket full of cash?

No. I and quite a few other sleazy salespeople qualify the customers possibly misplaced lust for a possibly over hyped POS that got a great review. Often a more appropriate for room/equipment/listening preference product is available for the same if not lower price.

Is this 30 second redirection easier and more cost effective than reading hours of anonymous threads, purchasing without audition (at a great discount!), waiting, setting up, waiting for break-in, and only then realizing that this was not the right product for you?

When you go to Outback Steakhouse and ask the super-duper intelligent waiter for a recommendation on a meal that will satiate you for 8 hours you not only pay full price without hesitation,... you tip 10-15% for the honor of getting a medium steak when you ordered mid-rare and a 10 minute wait for a second Budweiser.

Go get good advice, a personalized demo, an in-home demo, from a knowledgeable salesperson on a product that you may keep and enjoy every day for 20 years and you beat him out of his commission and the store out of some of the profit that it uses for little things like electricity, wages, insurance, pest control, paper for the printer, etc.

Sure dealers get any number of different incentives to pay bills on time/early, buy in quantity, and demo entire lines of products. These huge sums of money keep them in the black too right?

Profit=good thing.
(Unless you are a communist.)

Freedom, pride, victory!

Lets take off the pretend-law-expert hat and put on our propeller hat instead. We are audiofools afterall.

Happy scrounging.

:)

You are not donig your dealer any favors Chadnliz.
ML keeps an eye on these forums.
ML has a fairly strict "NO DISCOUNT" policy.
Dealers (yours included I'm sure) are some of the only people who have the time and inclination to spend all day on A-gon.
Don't be surprised if your dealer suddenly gets conservative with discounts.
Don't be surprised if ML gives him a spanking too.

Ata way to post yourself out of a good thing.

Fiddler,

Well, technically marijuana is not illegal. You simply have to have the appropriate stamp from the government in order to posses it legally. THe thing is that there are no such stamps in existance therefore... marijuana is illegal.

Semantics.

Some manufacturers protect the dealers that Smer319 speaks of. These dealers do have to turn a profit to stay in business. They are also protecting their products "good name" if you will by discouraging discounting.

Wow! You do sound just like a real live lawyer (no offense to any real live lawyers on this thread). Hope pre-law exams are going well. Study, study, study!

:)