Cerious Technologies Matrix USB cable


Just received the new Cerious Technologies Matrix USB cable.
ozzy

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Hello from the Hot Desert of Phoenix, AZ. Good news! Our USB cable is done. VERY happy with the results. I first, however, have to address that it is not a powered version of a USB. This proved to be fraught with interface problems as many equipment manufacturers have their own specialized way of addressing the +5V in the USB and bypassing this causes problems. That and cost. If it is a TRUE Matrix, then it requires a Matrix power cable and a power supply worthy of being called Matrix. Add an enclosure robust enough to handle a Matrix power cord and you are looking at a $2700 USB cable (!). While there are USB cables out there at this price point, Cerious is not "geared" for something like this. Call me crazy...
So our production USB is a full Graphene Matrix Damping Squared digital cable + a Graphene Matrix DC cable all in one jacket (yes it has the reactive jacket found in all Damping Squared Matrix products). As a thank you for all the interest we are offering our GM USB for the introductory price of $849 for a 1M. We would have to sell a separate GM DC cable for at least $399 (yes we are working on this!) so you can see the value this cable brings, not to mention attaching 4 effectively 9 gauge conductors into a USB connector (I go through a lot of eye drops...). Of course everything we sell comes with our 30 day money back policy (we still get emails asking if we have a money back policy...strange...). If you would like to try one then email me directly or go to our website and hit the submission request button and let me know you want one. I will return an invoice so we can get you taken care of.
Thank everyone so much for all the kind words and I hope you all are having a great summer.
Bob Grost
Cerious Technologies
Yes OZZY and LANCELOCK got final production versions. We will add a Graphene Matrix DC cable soon. We are awaiting connectors from Oyaide. We had to develop a full Matrix DC for the USB. Trying real hard to keep the price down. I looked up what some USB are going for...please do not tell me wife, she will want me raise my prices. A $6000 USB cable? Really?
The Matrix is a "Traditional" Data+CD cable. It is only traditional in configuration...
Hi everyone...Bob from Cerious.
In case you have not noticed, Cerious is not like most other cable companies. Our focus is getting our customers better sound and the "business" side takes a back seat. In this end if you have a "situation" you do the most to hide it and cover it up. Not us, however. We have a really weird situation going on with our USB. I must first say it is amazing sounding, as long as it is 1M or shorter. Longer Matrix USB are affecting how components "lock" in on the signal. It is completely hit and miss. The 1M and less are now bulletproof, but we are working with thlprules1962 as our Beta tester on longer USB cables. Oddly it is the most exotic pieces that refuse to lock. The "cheap" system locks and plays immediately. I value the open forum here and did not want him to have to "hide" what was going on and feel like he could not respond. This is not fair to him. We are working on it and will be sending several longer versions to try to get this resolved. This will not affect any current 1M or shorter Matrix USB cables which are the most sophisticated USB cables ever made and I agree that they just may make the biggest difference of any cable we make. In the mean time we (obviously...) will only be filling orders on 1M and shorter USB cable until we get this resolved. Thank you so much and will keep you posted...
Bob
CT

After you see the system lprules1962 has you can see why I trust him as a beta problem solver...
Bob
Cerious
Once again OZZY hits it on the head. Hard to believe that going from a 1M to a 1.5M would cause so much trouble. Here at Cerious we do not do things like most high end companies. We are first, and foremost, an engineering company. One that lets the sound ultimately dictate if a design is successful or not.
I can say with impunity that the conductors in the Graphene Matrix USB are the most sophisticated ever designed for a USB cable. The main data+ conductor is flat to 6 GHz with virtually no time error or energy storage. This is why it sounds so incredible @ 1 Meter. It also functions as a 9 gauge conductor so length should matter less with this cable than any other. The key elements of the "trials" have come down to 2 things:
1] the longer cable works perfectly with "less expensive" gear and 2] the exotic gear plays but with severe static. Both of these point to high end manufacturers "omitting" filtering in their digital circuits and input stages to "sound better". Apparently the bandwidth capabilities of the Matrix USB are causing problems, as hardware manufacturers "assume" they will never see an input reaching into the 6 GHz range. Lower end hardware assumes it must work with everything so they employ filtering to make it utterly stable, hence the instant locking and play.
As an engineer what is so fascinating is higher end gear decoding the digital signal, but having static pop through the output stage. If noise is present at the input the DAC should not know how to deal with it and either ignore it or treat it as dither and decode it as an error correction. Neither would result in "pops". This has to be a ground plane issue - one that we can only address by severely limiting the bandwidth of our cable which kind of defeats the purpose of making such a radical cable in the first place! That simply is not an option for us. I will continue to work with our Beta tester as I promised him I would figure out a way to make him a 1.6M USB and I do keep my promises (whenever possible...). If however we are confronted with the choice of "degrading" our Matrix cable to make it "more like everyone else's cable" or simply say it only comes in lengths up to 1 meter then that decision is an easy one. 1 meter it is!
Perhaps I can talk lprules1962 into moving his equipment closer together...
So now the weirdest thing. I am putting a new floor in my office and had to move everything into a spare bedroom. All my runs of USB from my computer (printer, scanner, and multiple test machines) now were much longer than before. I wanted to get up and running but the only longer USB cables I had were the longer Matrix which "do not work." One by one I hooked up my gear and as I plugged each one in the computer recognized the device and functioned perfectly. I am fully up and running without a single hiccup with cables that were rejected by high end equipment. So...what exactly are they doing that is different than standard USB configurations? All incredibly curious. I will continue to work on this but in the last three years Cerious has sold only 5% of its total sales in interconnect over 1 meter long. Perhaps making the best sounding USB cable in the world that is only 1M long will have to do...
Bob Grost
CT