Celibidache on DG or EMI?


I read that sound on DG is better, however, i read that 'true' Celi
shows on the EMI recordings. Anybody listened both? I eventualy get both anyway.
eldragon

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Recently, I've listened to most of both series. The EMI sound better. Try the Bruckner 4th the performance is superb. The first movement of the Eroica is also excellent. The Brahms series on DG are the only ones I would bother with, the fourth is particularly good. However, I don't see the mystique. Compare his Bruckner 8th to Furtwangler, Karajan or Giulini or his Beethoven the standard list of recommende performances and I think there is no contest
To Greg. I think I've heard all of the Furtwangler recordings of the Beethoven's 9th. My first preference is for the 1954 Lucerne Festival with the 1942 Berlin performance second. The Bayreuth festival is a close third.
Celi is not to my taste.
Last month I decided to listen to a fair cross section of Celi's performances both on EMI and DG. I listened to the Brahms, Ravel, Debussy, Strauss, Respighi, Haydn, most of the Beethoven and Bruckner as well as the Russian set. Celi is obviously a conductor of genius, as the Bruckner and Brahms 4th recordings make clear. However, Celi uses the same interpretive exaggerations on Haydn or Beethoven as he does on Stravinsky, Strauss or Bruckner. These interpretive exaggerations begin to homoginize the composer’s works and unacceptable blur their compositional uniqueness.

The key for me is does an interpretive exaggeration (a noticeable and audible deviation from the clear markings in the composers published score) tell me something significant about the music, (as is frequently the case with Furtwangler, Klemperer or Bernstein), or is it just a willful exaggeration that tells us more about the conductor. After my listening sessions, often with a score, in my opinion, Celi is, for the most part, about the latter.

On a more affective note and listening without the score, only the Bruckner 4th performance totally engrossed me as a great performance of any of these works should. Here, it is certainly a matter of personal preference. That’s why Celi IS a cult conductor

If you can read music are interested in these issues I recommend the composer Gunther Schuller’s book called the Complete Conductor. He compares, bar by bar, several hundred recordings of such major works such as the Beethoven 5, Brahms 1 and 4, Tchaikovsky 6 and Strauss’s Till to the printed score. Celi’s Bruckner interpretations have little to do with the various editions. For an analysis of the 8th and its various editions, I recommend Korstvedt’s book on the 8th.

BTW the Nikisch recording of the Beethoven 5th is a powerful interpretation showing virtuoso control of the orchestra but the sound is extremely primitive