Cary 303/300 vs. Audio Aero Capitole CDP


I have been considering auditioning tube CDP's, as much of my music collection is poor quality 70's/80's rock recordings.

I was thinking that tubes at the source may help smooth out some of the harshness that forces me to only want to listen to many of my cd's in the car.

On my audition list has been the AA Capitole, as it seems to be very highly praised.

However, new to the arena is the new Cary, which offers both tube & SS output stages, as well as selectable sampling rates. This one-chasis flexibility seems very attractive to me.

I was wondering if anyone has compared the Cary to any of the different versions of the Capitole CDP?

Any shared experiences would be greatly appreciated.
barrelchief

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The AA capitole MKII SE is vastly superior to the CARY in either output. The Cary can sound very clinical in SS and definitely sounds better in tube output mode but it really is no match for the AA player which can sound much better if using the Symposium Rollerblocks series 2+ in double stacked configuration with the grade 3 tungsten superballs or the SRA Ohio XL base as an alternative. Only downside in the AA player is that it takes over 1000 hours to fully break in and it sounds best when left turned on all the time. One session with the Capitole and I knew it was the one! ... never replaced it!
I agree with you Larry on the Audio Note gear, they make some wonderful electronics but they don't come cheap.

I cannot share your experience of lean mid bass with the AA player that I have. I use the symposium rollerblocks described above with an HRS M2 platform underneath which sits on a 1" granite block. If anything I find the bass is very articulate and clean with plenty of weight to it, albeit sometimes scary. I use the cardas golden reference ic's which although not the best out there, have given me the most pleasure in the long run. Powerconditioning is Shunyata (a hydra 4) with power supplied to it by a Revelation Audio Labs Precept 20 powercord (20 amp IEC).

My comments are surely biased because I love this player, perhaps because I find that it is very forgiving with most non-audiophile recordings ... which comprise the majority of my collection.

I've heard both the Esoteric DV-50 as well as their top of the line player in Montreal this year, and I also had the opportunity to hear the Ayre player at the same show. I find that the Ayre setup was by far my favorite, despite the Esoteric runnning through YBA passion gear with the JM Lab Grande Utopia Be's (perhaps the YBA preamp and YBA powercords and conditioning were the weak links here). I also have a friend who owns the Linn CD-12 and I like it a lot. Too bad he never uses the analog output it has, he finds that digital out into his reference Levinson processor sounds better in his system. But that's why this is an open forum an all suggestions are welcome.

I do love my AA player though, but I also heard that the Reimyo is better, it all depends on the system of course. My system has its limitations and I can't say this or that for sure, but I love the emotional involvement it provides when I listen to music.
As far as regards your questions about the versatiltity of this player, I can tell you that the SE version can satisfy some of the demands you have posted.

It has both RCA and XLR outs (hence you can use the RCA outs into your Pioneer CDR recorder and the XLR out to an amp). However, to reach standard output voltage, you need to bring the volume of the capitole SE's preamp to -7 db (which will output very high db levels if your amp can handle them without distortion, but will also damage your ears, so care is required here but if you have adjustable gain on your amps then this issue can be avoided).

You can also return signal via RCA analog inputs back into the preamp, however I'm not sure you'd be able to monitor your recorded sound if you're using XLR out to the amp since I've never used this option. For clarification here, you'd be best off emailing your questions to Globe Audio, they're always helpful.

As far as the turntable goes, the answer is no. There is no phono input here. The preamp section on the SE has 2 RCA inputs and an XLR input as well.

The remote has both volume control and phase inversion options (though there are a variety of models out there, mine is about 3 years old, and don't get the LCD one if you consider this player ... have only heard negative things about it).

Hope this answers some of your questions.

Remy