Cartridge options for current gain phonostages (47 Labs)


Hi,
I have a 47 Labs phonocube which I have not been using because I do not have a "matching" cartridge. It is a current gain phonostage. Its input impedance is 0 ohms and it amplifies current rather than voltage. That basically means a low impedance cartridge is the first thing it needs. I had the ART-9 which is a 12 ohm cartridge and it was not a great pairing with phonocube. I am now in the market for a new cartridge and would like to buy a low impedance high current cartridge. The Transfiguration Proteus is one of them but it is expensive. 

Looking for suggestions on other options. Primarily the higher is the voltage/impedance value the better.
Budget is around $2k.
pani

Showing 3 responses by chakster

Well, i’m in, hope it’s not too late :)

As the owner of two different Miyabi cartridges (MCA and Standard) i just bought 47 Labs 4712 Phonocube with Humpty.

Pani told me he never tried his ex 47 Labs phono cube with Miyabi cartridge. This is exactly what i’m gonna try!

Fascinated by Nelson Pass current source power amp (First Watt F2J) in my system i am up for "current injection" phono stage with ZERO load impedance finally.

Hope i am not alone ... 

MORE ABOUT PHONOCUBE:

  • Input impedance 0 ohm
    Most of currently available phono equalizers are designed to amplify the voltage that appears at both ends of a resistor when a current generated by the cartridge is carried to the ground through this resistor. Our Phonocube has a unique and original circuitry ( with input impedance of 0 ohm), which enables all of the current generated by the cartridge to flow directly into the amplifying circuit.

  • Unique equalizing circuit with advantages of both NF and CR types.
    Although NF type circuitry is known for its high S/N ratio, a rise in the high frequency is always inevitable. The unique equalizing circuit of Phonocube allows the same level of high S/N ratio while maintaining the smooth and accurate equalizing character of the CR type.

  • Extreme simplicity --- minimum circuitry
    To preserve the freshness of the sound, we reduced the number of parts as much as possible, 25 per channel, and achieved the shortest signal pass length ever (44 m/m).

  • Rigid and compact chassis construction
    The chassis of Phonocube is constructed from two aluminum tubular frames ( 40 x 80 m/m section ) and front and rear panels of 10 m/m thick machined aluminum. Each circuit of left and right channels is encased in a separate chassis to eliminate interference between them and to achieve ideal dual mono structure.

  • Compatibility:

    Most of MC cartridges available in the current market are compatible with the standard version. For those cartridges with an extremely small output level and/or high internal impedance, we have the high-gain version. The standard version has 75dB and the high-gain version has 90dB of gain. Since it is a current amplification device with 0 ohm input impedance, output level is determined by the output amperage of the cartridge (output voltage divided by internal impedance). If you are not sure about which version suites better for your cartridge, please contact SAKURA SYSTEMS.

  • Features:

    • Unique equalizing circuitry that amplifies all the voltage the cartridge generates without loss.
    • Complete dual mono structure with each channel in a separate chassis.
    • Rigid and compact aluminum chassis to ensure a quick and smooth release of vibrations.
    • World's smallest number of parts --------- 25 parts per channel
    • World's shortest signal pass length -------------- 44 m/m
    • Powerful voltage regulation with high capacity transformer - 170 VA cut-core transformer +- Individual coils
    • To be upgraded into complete mono structure by adding another Model 4700.
    Specifications:
    • Input impedance : 0
    • Output impedance : 47
    • Gain : 2 types to match the internal impedance of different cartridges
       type A ( standard ) / type B ( high gain )

    "The Miyabi Standard has an output voltage of 0.2mV and an internal impedance of 2.0 ohms, while the Miyabi/47 has 0.3mV output voltage and an internal impedance of 2.0 ohms".

    Pretty much as nearly all my favorite MC cartridges, they are all low impedance 2-3 Ohm and low output 0.15 - 0.25 (but not extremely low as the Ortofon MC2000 @lewm ).

    The 47 Labs 4712 Phono cube has been made at the time when Miyabi 47 (designed by Takeda for 47 Labs) was in production and distribution in the USA by Sakura Systems.

    Anyway, the difference between Pani and me in this thread is that i bought my current drive phono stage especially for my old Miyabi collection. So i don’t care about other cartridges capabilities with Phono Cube or vice versa. But i'm pretty sure that all similar low output and low impedance carts can be used with 47 Labs Phono Cube. 






    BTW @lewm did you notice that a 90dB version has been made for extremely low output carts (standard version is 75dB).