Cardas Cold Forging


Has anyone tried the new Cardas option to have their speaker cable and connectors cold forged, making for a solid connection with no "connective" points with solder, etc. Sounds good in theory for line transmission, but can you hear any difference? If so what? I'm using Cardas Golden Reference.
pubul57

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mitch,
Day one: Old terminations removed. Ends are dipped in solvent to remove the clear coat on every strand.
Day two: dipped again, while being agitated. Set out to dry
Day three: unwind the conductors using a couple of wire wheel hand tools to remove remaining residue from stripping process. Two stage crimping process, resulting in each strand being fused into a solid lump, and then fused onto spades.
this is the description from turboglo above.
ok mich?
best, bobby
to everyone, the cost for cold forging a pair of single run speaker cables is $300 or $37.50 a connection (this is for 8 spades). the cost for cold forging a pair of internal bi-wire cables is $400 or $33.33 a connection (this is for 12 spades). the connectors used in this termination are unique to this process. the wire is litz so the coating has to be removed. a chemical is added to the connection to keep out impurities. the whole process is very labor intensive. what you are left with is a connection that is a solid piece without solder. it is much more than a crimp because the copper actually melts and becomes a solid with the connector. it took mr. cardas two years to develope and test this process. it was first avalable in the cardas clear cable. cardas is now offering this type of termination for all of their speaker cables and from what i have heard, people that have had this done end up with a profound improvement in their sound.
first hand knowledge always beats speculation.
best, bobby at merlin
the copper wires are pressed together and extruded. they are in effect one piece. to get them apart a chisel would be needed. are they melted? maybe, maybe not but there is heat evident. how about fused?
when the connector is crimped to the wire bundle, just enough pressure is used to squeeze the air out between them. the second stage reqires much higher pressure to fuse the components into one piece.
we are talking about speaker wire termination and not conducting electricity. but george assures me this connection would be fine for that too.
best, bobby
H, are you usually this argumentative about things you cannot disprove? your knowledge of crimping may be considerable but this is not the same process. mr cardas has worked for years to make this a considerable improvement of the norm.
and we are discussing speaker wire terminations here and nothing else. for those that have had this done, they like it and that is all that matters. as i said, first hand knowledge is everything. now is you want to purchase a pair of cold forged speaker cables and chisel them apart which which george said would need to be done, then you would have some first hand knowledge.
have a nice day.
ok?
best, b
i rest my case.
he is just going to be argumentative to the end.
he must be a lot of fun to live with.
:-)
best, b
then you have a very funny way of finding facts.
rather than casting doubt on mr cardas's work, why not contact him and find out for yourself.
ok i dare you, say something else to get the last word!
b