Cardas Clear Beyond Interconnects ?


Any impression, review,etc. on these new cables?

I own two Clear Beyond Power cords for the Luxman 509u integrated amp and Accuphase DP700 SACD player, Clear Reflection XLR interconnects and a double run of old (but still good) Golden Reference speaker cables biwiring my B&W 803D’s, plus an old Golden Reference Power feeding the Goldnote Dumbo AC (the power filter dedicated to the digital source), while the Purepower 3000 feeding all system receives the dedicated power line (10 meters -I write from Italy- of 3x12AWG for hospital grade UPSs cable terminated with Oyaide C279) from the electric panel.

I am planning to replace the Reflection XLR with the new Beyond, and the G.R. Power for the AC filter with a Clear Power.

More extended, neutral and dynamic but still musical interconnects, and less bright/forward power cable should re-create the same balance, but a step "beyond" ;) .

I read from the Cardas website the new Beyond should be a musical cable with increased "slam" on low frequencies, instead of the too resolving, light character of the old Clear, still the Rev.1, I never liked; maybe Beyond is a more extended Reflection than an improved Clear, who knows?!
biggy79

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So you moved from warm cables like PAD 20th Anniversary to Clear Beyond and you're happy ... maybe that means Beyond Interconnects are not too resolving and still musical, like Cardas website says:

"Improving upon the spectacular performance of Clear Interconnect, Clear Beyond combines the famous Cardas musicality with a wider, taller sound stage, deeper bass and increased dynamics. Everything just gets bigger and better, as a cable carrying the name "Beyond" should."

"Clear Beyond Interconnect brings noteworthy improvements in spatial imaging, dynamics, and low frequency impact while retaining the classic Cardas musicality."

"More than anything, Clear Beyond Interconnect is musical".


Can you compare the Interconnects alone to other cables you know?


@garebear I had the same impression about old Clear interconnects: a Cardas version of the Nordost Valhalla v1 !

It would be nice for me to know if the Beyond interconnects would keep the same tonality and musical balance resulting the right cable for the actual Clear Reflection owners ...

@jafant  when I chose the integrated (I did not want separates) for my B&W 803D 8 years ago, I meant to get the best in terms of woofer handling and driving capabilities, and the Luxman 509u is second to no one in bass control, better than more expensive and "Wattier" separates.
I think AB class Luxman amps are better than Accuphase ones, because of their better speed, dynamics, neutrality, driving capabilities.
At that time, the E450 could not ever drive the B&W 803D; maybe today E470 is better, but i still prefer Luxman for amps: my dream (sadly, it will remain that) is C900u+M900u!
I would consider Accuphase only for their top class separates with big AB class power amps (out of my budget and too big for my room), for the rest I prefer Luxman.

On the other hand, there is no digital source better than an high class Accuphase SACD, no other words needed!


@garebear I'll tell you more ... I did prefer A LOT the Nordost Frey 2 (I could try in my system) more than Clear Rev.1 (I don't want to know how awful could be the first Clear): the Nordost was more analytical but much better balanced and entertaining. Clear was too "flat" and boring.

@mikey8811 congratulations ! If Beyond won't be right for you I will buy yours ;) (joking, hope your system will sound awesome) !
I had AQ Sky silver interconnects in the past, exchanged with a pair of Golden Reference (replaced by Clear Reflection after 5 years): one of the best deals of my audiophile life.

@dbarkovic : no, unfortunately I could not audition the Beyonds yet. I think I will this fall.
I never experienced hardness and sibilance with Clear Reflection, too.

Maybe it is a burn-on issue, however consider to change DAC if you know yours sounds etched: good cables can only highlight problems.

When my system had problems I had hard and fatiguing sound even with the warmer Golden Reference; the fact you use Golden Cross makes me think ...

Now that perfect electric current powers my gear and a reference SACD player like my Accu DP700 is the source, no sibilance passes through neutral and transparent integrated amplifier and speakers, even with more "revealing" cables; rather, Clear sounded in my system even softer in the highs than Golden Reference (but also lacked in musicality, "body" and entertainment) !
@david_ten @jafant @garebear @mikey8811 
As I told in the Beyond Power topic, I have Clear Beyond Interconnects in my system.

After a long (and painful!) break-in I can say it's virtually free of faults, a huge improvement versus both Clear Reflection and Clear Rev.1 Interconnects.
No more Reflection's fat midbass, nor the Clear's "flatness".
All is how it should be.
It's musical but it is not dark or overly warm.
All music sounds good with the Beyond Interconnects, without being too forgiving.

I tried the Clear Rev.1 Speaker, it was a great (positive) surprise, I did not expect that improvement over the old Golden Reference.

I have two pairs of speaker cabkes so I tried the only pair of Clear I had in demo first on bass, than on mid highs.

It does not "blend" with the Golden Reference, they are too different.
Golden Reference is more focused on mids, losing deep bass and "air" and detail in the upper end, which is exquisitely musical.

It went better mixing Clear Rev.1 with a Clear Light I could demo at the same time; the result was I have to pass from double run of Golden Ref. to a double run of Clear Rev.1!

Sound was balanced in every way I put the cables, but there was a loss of bass depht and articulation putting the Light down, and a more grainy sound putting it up; on the other hand, Clear provided a startling deep bass when used on the woofers and (as I told before) an exquisite, airy, roch, smooth top end when used on the mid-highs section.

Now the new Beyond Power XL is coming, so I have to decide: new speaker cables (I have to find 2 used/demo pairs) or a new power cord for the integrated?