Can you recommend Jazz for some one that doesn't like Jazz?


Let me explain, I have tried to like jazz for over 30 years. I rarely find something I like. To me it sounds too disjointed, like everyone is trying to out do the others and they are all playing a different song. I know there has to be some good instrumental smooth jazz artists I am missing. If you have any suggestions of whom to try let me know. Some that are on my Jazz playlist is Pat Metheny-"It's for you"   Bill Frisell _"Heard it through the grapevine"  Holly Cole, George Benson... for an example of things I do like.

 

I'd love to have a 100 song Jazz playlist. So what'ch got for me?

Thanks

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The suggestion to get a guidebook on jazz recordings is the way to go.  A book like the All Music Guide to Jazz not only lists most of the major artists and their recordings, it has a decent rating of each recording so you can sample the best. 

The recommendation of the Ken Burns documentary series is also very good because it places the music in a social and historical context and employs narrators who know and love the subject and convey what the music means to them.  The series is long but it is rewarding.  The biggest problem for me was that the series stopped well short of covering what would have been at that time current jazz artists and their music; it was mostly ancient history then, and more so ancient history now.

If you want to hear a decent cross section of jazz development at a particular time, and appreciate how advanced jazz performance was quite a whiles back, sample the top recordings from just one year--1959.  Three giant recording came out that year:  Miles Davis "Kind of Blue," Dave Brubeck "Time Out" and Ornette Coleman "Shape of Jazz to Come."  Of these three, my favorite is "Shape of Jazz to Come."  

I bought the original Proprius release of "Jazz at the Pawnshop."  I listened to it once and have never played it again.  The recording IS VERY GOOD and captures the feel of a live club sound.  But the style (sort of European swing) and performance was, for my taste, bland and uninteresting so I've not bothered to hear it again.  It is still in my collection, as I never get rid of anything. 

There are various compilations of the "Best of Blue Note."  This is one of the best ways to get into jazz--all of the selections are important pieces, accessible, yet much more than easy listening pablum.  You can then branch out based on which of the selections you find most enjoyable.  

If I had to pick a single artist that I think almost everyone would like, it would be Mingus.  Any of his iconic albums would have something that a jazz listener should like.  The same probably could be said of Dave Brubeck, Sonny Rollins, Duke Ellington, Louis Armstrong, Sidney Bechet.  Some of the other giants, like Coltrane, Monk, Davis, Gillespie, Dolphy, Hancock, Nelson are also reasonably accessible and at least some of their works should be well liked by any listener.  It might take a bit more listening for most listeners to enjoy the likes of Coleman and Roland Kirk, but that is part of the learning process.

If you have an interest in jazz contemporary jazz, there is an interesting series put out by ECM called "rarum" where their artists choose the tracks they want to include in their compilation, the order they want the tracks presented, and write the liner notes for the albums.  Artist include the likes of Tomasz Stanko, Charlie Haden, Carla Bley, Keith Jarrett, Jan Garbarek and Chick Corea.  

Another thing to look into is international stars that use traditional, non-European instruments in Jazz compositions.  For example, Anour Brahem plays the oud, a North African string instrument in some very beautiful albums like "Thimar," "the Astounding Eyes of Rita," and "Blue Maqams."  Another oud player, Rabih Abou-Khalil fuses Arabic and jazz and has produced a terrific album called "The Blue Camel" (If you can find the original LP, get it not only for the music and terrific recording quality, but also because the jacket is incredibly pretty).

In my collection, many of the best sounding recordings happen to be of jazz.  The following is a list of some of these outstanding recordings:

Armstrong: "Satchmo Plays King Oliver" (early stereo, but not surpassed in sound quality).

Ellington: "Blues in Orbit" (again late 1950's stereo recording that is amazingly good.  I use an original issue, six-eye Columbia recording to demonstrate how little recording arts have advanced)

Brubeck: "Time Out" (original six-eye Columbia that sounds better than reissues)

Clark Terry "Alternate Blues" (a reissue from Classic Records, I believe, that is extemely dynamic)

Yamamoto Trio: "Midnight Sugar" (Japanese Three Blind Mice record.  ANY TBM record will sound fantastic; CD is decent, but not as good)

Great Jazz Trio: "Direct from L.A." (original East Wind (Japanese) label album.  The CD reissues are decent, but, not as dynamic as the original).

Bill Berry Allstars: "For Duke" (a direct to disc album from M&K records.  Any other M&K direct to disc record will also sound good, such as "Fatha")

Oliver Nelson: "Blues and the Abstract Truth" (many different reissues and they all sound quite good)

Rollins: "Saxophone Colossus" (one of the great recordings for music and sound quality; I use it to demonstrate how good MONO can sound)

 

Modern digital recordings also do a great job with jazz.  I offer two samples:

Anour Brahem: "Thimar" 

Stefano Battaglia; "Re Pasolini"

 

I don't usually think of vocal works as jazz.  To me it is its own genre and there are MANY great sounding recordings.  I will only offer one example of a top singer playing with a first rate jazz orchestra: 

Ella Fitzgerald and Marty Paich: "Whisper Not"

Stuartk did an excellent job describing improvisation in jazz.  It is a lot of fun following how the ensemble weaves its way through a tune, particularly where that tune seems almost, but not totally, unrecognizable.  I suggest listening to Lester bowie’s outrageous, joyous and silly romp through the song “The Great Pretender.”  Even where it seems to have devolved into noise, you can still hear the tune and enjoy what the band is doing.

As I mentioned before, you should start with a Blue Note compilation, such as "Best Blue Note Album in the World Ever" which is a two CD collection featuring many of their best artists.  If you don't find three or four tracks in that collection that you really connect with and enjoy, then jazz might not be for you.  

i don't know how good the sound is on digital versions of Soular Energy, but the vinyl copy I have is extremely good.  Nice recommendation.

I like the MJQ recommendations made above, but, they may not be as accessible as the "Time Out' recommendation.  Still, it is hard to say what will connect with any one listener.  I had a friend who I lent some jazz CDs to as an introduction.  Just as a joke, I included Coltrane's "Interstellar Space" and it turned out to be the album he most liked.

I also like the suggest Samba recordings.  There is a lot of interesting South American jazz worth exploring.  I recommend Gato Barbieri's "Latin America: Chapter 1."  The track named "India" is a good track to sample.

I often find it unfathomable that certain artists and albums are disliked by a lot of people.  I have a hard time trying to figure out why Eric Dolphy fits into the category of artist that some people truly don't like.  I would put the Mal Waldron/Eric Dolphy/Booker Evans "The Quest" album very high on a starter list for a jazz collection.  I cannot think of too may cuts more beautiful than "Warm Canto."  

i don't think your post ruffled any feathers.  You received a lot of diverse suggestions from those responding and that is all to the good.  If we misread what you were looking for, it is because it is quite hard to interpret your thread title.  No one who dislikes something can be expected to be well versed in the subject, so people have been recommending things that you should sample to see if you like it.  If, on the other hand, your interest were limited to the likes of Holly Cole, George Benson and Bill Frisell and Pat Methany, I did not read it that way; I thought you were also interested in expanding your search to find other things that you may like.  If your search were just for things you are already inclined to like, you could use a streaming service which will suggest other music similar to what you say you like.  

I was not at all scolding and was not directing that statement to ANY suggestion.  I was merely pointing out how hard it is to predict reactions to any piece of music or artist.  The example I gave was of someone whose music seems universally likable, at least to me, yet others would disagree.  That is why threads like this are helpful—a wide selection of music is suggested.  

There have been several suggestions, including my own, for Brubeck's "Time Out" album which has the fantastic "Take Five" track.  I do agree that there are many Benny Goodman albums that display terrific music making and virtuosic playing.  I have some original six-eye Columbia stereo recordings from the late 1950's and early 1960's of Benny Goodman that are among the finest recordings that I have in terms of sound quality.  

I think there may have been some suggestion that certain types of jazz recordings are not sophisticated or demanding enough to be included in suggestions.  I don't think that is the case.  I often listen to simple, tuneful music that others would call easy listening.  So what if it is easy listening if it is simply beautiful?  In that category. I would suggest recordings by the Tord Gustavsen Trio.  These ECM recordings have the benefit of that label's consistently good engineering.  I would also suggest that one look for recordings of the pianist Geoffrey Keezer.

Yes, the LA 4 record, particularly the original release, is terrific sounding.  East Wind is a Japanese label that consistently released great sounding records. 

A particularly good Windham Hill album is Michael Hedges’ “Arial Boundaries” a terrific acoustic guitar album with extremely good sound on top of great music.