Can You Get 1,000 WPC Out Of Regular Wall Socket?


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I see the new Emotiva (100 lbs) and Boulder (450 lbs!!) 1,000 WPC monoblocs require a dedicated 20 amp circuit per monobloc.

I recently read where someone had his Krell 750mcx monobocs changed from 110 to 220 because he said they sounded better.

Well, the D-sonic digital amp weighs 20 pounds and is rated at 1500 WPC. Can an amp pull 1500 WPC from a regular household wall socket?
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Al, I found this long time ago searching for power test of 200ASC (Icepower module used in my Rowland 102):

"I operated a sample 1000ASP on the bench delivering 350W average of pink noise into a 4 ohm load for over one hour with no additional heatsink and the metal case stayed below 55°C.

However, higher levels would make the power supply voltage go down to act as a thermal compensation. Much nicer than just shutting down.

However, with 1214W of sine wave, partly into clipping, after about 35 seconds, the output level would drop to about 600W by the protection circuitry. Remember this is with no additional heatsink.

The 200ASC, I was able to operate with sine wave at 100W into 4 ohms continuously. Turning it up, with sine wave, the module would shut down at about 214W.

However, with pink noise at 100Waverage and a 6 db crest factor, the 200ASC would run all day without shut down, until I was tired of tying up one of my Audio Precisions with it. It would also run all day with music, driven hard where the output limiter was set to a peak limit of 210W maximum. That is, the limiter would allow small amounts of clipping. Driven so the limit light in our external optical limiter was on essentially continuously."

It was posted in February 2005 on diyaudio.com forum. Normally 1000ASP is attached to some external heatsinks and should perform better. 200ASC module doesn't have this option.

Music has very low average power - just few percent of peak power. It is not only because of gaps but also because average half loudness is equivalent to 1/10 of power. I would expect long term average power for this 1kW amp to be much less than 100W but it depends on the type of music. Jazz has very low average value but it is much higher for heavy orchestral pieces. Module has 80% efficiency. Assuming two channels at 1kW, supply power is 2x1kW/0.8=2.5kW. It will require 21.7A and 20A circuit breaker should not trip since orchestra forte doesn't last forever. It would be better to put each monoblock on separate breaker or even better - separate phase of 115V.

Class D have also power bandwidth limitations (to protect output filter) but it is way above tweeter's max power. Datasheet for 1000ASP shows 1kW up to 4kHz dropping to 200W at 10kHz. We don't need to worry about it. FTC power, that you mentioned, is shown for 1000ASP as only 150W, but Icepower specifications are very conservative and it is measured without external heatsinks. With 200ASC module FTC power is 55W, but test proved continuous operation at 100W.
Mapman, thank you for kind word. 1000ASP is 58% louder than 200ASC since power ratio is k=5 while

Perceived loudness = k^(1/3.5) = 1.58

It doesn't look that much of a difference but the key is in max current delivery. It is 40A for 1000ASP and only 12.5A for 200ASC. Perhaps because of that minimum load for 100ASP is rated 2ohm but for 200ASC it is 3ohm. I don't have problem with that since my speaker dips only to 3.6ohm (nominal 6 ohm). As I mentioned Icpower spects are very conservative. Muralman1 runs H2O amp based on 500W Icepower module (rated for 2 ohm min) driving 1ohm nominal impedance Scintilla planar speakers with great sound and without any problems.

Maximum output current chart for 1000ASP shows 40A for 0.35s, 30A for 3s, 22A for 45s.

It is also worth mentioning that many Icepower amps (including 1000ASP and 200ASC) have switching power supplies. Main benefit of that is regulated supply voltage that is steady under changing load or dropping supply voltage (line and load regulation). Jeff Rowland strongly believes in switching power supplies. His newest class AB amps have switching power supplies operating at 1MHz (amazing).