Calling Merlin upgraders

to put the subs into production will cost close to $200,000.00 and to be honest we are so busy building our four speaker systems we do not have the time to put something new in the works. if you really want the last octave then get some subs but the speakers can produce huge bass in tonally balanced systems in the right sized room and listening distance. if they are set up to go after the lowest octave they can get down into the mid twenties with room reinforcement. i had them in a room 22 by 24 by 10 and 30 to 40% of the people at the ces asked me where the sub was.
as far as the improvement of the ms and mxs are concerned, have a look at some of the comments on audioreview and in the archives on audioasylum in the speaker chatroom.
there are plenty of comments there.
84audio, what ms do you have? studio or premium finish?
studio ms cannot be upgraded to the mx only clear coat versions.
please let me know what kind of system you have to see if you would even bebefit from the mx version. they are capable of more than the mm but only if you have the gear and wires to get it out of them. mms are a big improvement over your ms too.
b

lugnut,
the sub concept that we will employ is very different than any currently on the market. so do any available ones measure up, only partially? and by that i mean in the bass extension but not in the stratification or placement of the output. and man, that is is the only clue you will get.
you will want a sub that crosses over at 30 hz at 12 and 24 db peroctave. one that can adjust output, phase and maybe even damping but that will be hard to find. one that will filter out of band energy and that will be even harder to find.
i do not know how your friend has them set up or what gear/cable he is using. your issue may be more one of bass quantity than extention. but unless i heard it with you i can not tell from this conversation.
howard,
by reinforcement we are talking about a very specific placement of the speakers in a given room. rooms can and will most times help extend the response of any speaker. i will help when you get yours.
b

the vsm m in studio black can be upgraded to the vsm mm and the vsm m in clear coat can be upgraded to the mx.
the m cabinet with the clear coat finish is more damped so we can cold temper more parts and improve the uniformity and resolution.
marketing move??
nice try.
and if it was a marketing move do you really think i'd say yes?
:-)
b