Calling All Tube Gurus


I know everyone loves to have their tubes come from the same date codes and manufacturers. But just how critical is this?


If you can determine that a tube was made in the same plant, has the same construction and date codes, how critical is it if the tube was made by Siemens and rebranded as an Amperex? Or let’s say the tubes has the same construction but were manufactured within a year or so of each other?


I’ve heard people say that if a manufactures tubes are not up to their standards, THOSE are the tubes they send out to the other manufactures for their branding. Fact or fiction?


Has anyone experimented to see how these variables actually affect their music? I realize everyone has their own tolerance to what is acceptable to them, and that it can also be system dependent, but I am curious to the findings any of you may have.

elrod

Showing 1 response by alvinnir2

I don’t mean to derail this in any way but wanted to add my experience. In the pursuit of better sound we search out tubes,sometimes based on some thing we read like "Joe’s tube lore".Why Not ? It’s a fun and informative read. But these and similar reviews/comparisons, although meticulously done, might only have used a single example of a given tube. Someone like Joe, came to these conclusions within the context of his system, preferences, and gear that  was posted on the asylum 25 year ago. Much has changed since then including equipment and tube supply.

Tubes can vary, time and usage takes it’s toll if the tube is not New Old Stock. I trust the opinions of the best tube resellers like Brent Jesse. They have experience with multiple examples of a given tube over time and have a reputation/business to maintain..

One can generalize that performance will be similar over many years of a tube’s run if the internals look the same and that may be more important than getting stuck on a specific date.

I’ve bought supposed "Holy Grail" tubes that have "underperformed" my expectations.

I’ve bought tubes that are not the same date codes as the recommended ones that sound as good because they are the identical construction. Buying old tubes is a bit of mine field but So worth it when you do find the gems.

Case in point I recently bought some Matsushita tubes.When Mullard closed down Matsushitu bought the tooling from them and continued to make them in the meticulous way the Japanese do. The resulting tube is sonically equal to the equivalent Mullards I have and were a fraction of the price and easy to find New Old Stock