Update....found some old MIT MH 750 shotgun speaker cable laying around my dealer. Upgraded speakers to Totem Winds driven by Krell 400xi second time I've bought it). Startlingly good...open, detailed, 3D soundstage beyond walls, dynamic as hell and natural sounding...relaxed! Perhaps at this level I will have to jump at the chance. Originally $1200+...still some around for $550 or less! |
Maybe I'll try it from Robert at the Cable Co...but I really can hardly believe the synergy I have achieved for so little! |
Everybody's sytem is different and everyone has a bias (and some need it adjusted ..Ha Ha!)! I've owned the $18K rigs and the $1k rigs...depending on the synergy between components, you may wind up with a mix of on the cheap stuff and expensive! Ideally, cable should allow your components(if up to the challenge)to convey the full color of the recording in your home...unalterd!! My preference is Harmonic Tech or Acoustic Zen (someone on this site turned me on to AZ). These cables simply let the music flow with any gear...the full richness and tonal purity of the recording is allowed to fill the room...goosebumps are common!! |
Wow...everybody has alot to say! Problem is most of it don't mean jack. Experiment, experiment and then experiment some more..start cheap and only go as high as necessary. Do not read reviews. People with credentials are the worst...mostly spec driven despite having the ultimate cable testers on either side of their heads! I gave up the ultra high-end because of just such mental angst. The music should be first...even if it's being played on a table top radio...all else is obsession mostly! |
Wow...what alot of sh.t you guys are discussing!! Ever wonder why a good car radio can sound soooo much better than any HiFi system???? By the way, MIT is one of the only companies who present a strong case for their approach, backed by research...very consistent and superior at most price points! |
After extensive listening with the Monster Z200i vs MIT's Magnum M1 Proline IC's the winner is the Z200i RCA's! Also trying to gain an improvement over my Monster M2.2s speaker cables by auditioning SRTesla Accelerator, Purist Aqueas Anniversary and Analysis plus Big Siver Oval's. Also tried Magnum M1 speaker cables but they failed horribly. So far the SR's have not bettered the monster's and it looks bleak for the others as well. |
It is so easy to hear what a great cable or power cord can do for fine equipment. True, they are not always super expensive, but some of the higher priced stuff does deliver the goods on great gear..night and day differences!! Some people are tone deaf..that's a fact as well! I have owned just about all the major cable brands, including Radio Shack...all wires are not created equall sorry to say! MIT is my favorite of the higher price stuff...it allows the full dynamic range thru with both macro and micro dynamic shadings..tone color is vivid and soundstaging is deep and layered with oodles of air!! Horns are one of the toughest instruments to re-create on a stereo...try the RS cable against a MIT Magnum cable and ya don't have to scratch your head...your jaw will drop!! This all means nothing of course unless you own great gear like Krell ect....! One must also have a deep love of live music in order to understand what makes one cable sound better than another...if no appreciation exists then any cable will do, which is fine if that makes you happy! It's a personal thing..you don't have to make it a public scourge!! |
Just thought I'd chime in and say my current rig has north of $25K in wires...and I wouldn't have it any other way..really, I've tried the radio shack route and everything in-between, but the damn stuff is sooofreakin great!!! FYI- I use MIT Oracle V2.1 spkr and IC's with Transparent MM Reference power cords. |
If your contemplating using non-networked wire, then DIY is a cost cutting alternative. I have owned many of the high end non-networked cables and have had mixed results Even the best non-networked cables failed to present the music in it;s full measure with unrestricted dynamic range, 3D imaging land ack of distortion..when I went to something other than MIT I was unimpressed! Transparent is more tweaky and can be a great fit or a horrible debacle. The latest MIT stuff is remarkable....one must have the desire to hear the magic and utilize the cables properly. In other words, the rest of the system must be sufficiently well put together to take agvantage of what they offer!! |
It may come down to how you listen. When I put on David Ott's Symphony #4 or Shostakovich's string quartets by the Emerson Quartet I need to be a part of the music, enveloped by the passion and power of the performance. Polite, nice pretty listening sessions are ok but when one needs to enter another world...the space where the musicians created the magic, nothing I've used comes close to my experience with MIT Oracle interfaces. |
Just hooked up my new V2.2 Oracles...never have I experienced such a large transformation in sound quality in a system! The improvements are equal to or greater than most component changes. |
Cable differences should be fairly easy to hear on a 30K system...unless you truly can't hear it, in which case you shouldn't be able to hear the difference between the 30K system and pair of JBL's and a reciever. Given that, I would cash in the system and get something cheaper. That said, you can have great cables for less than the mega buck stuff many of us have.....the not hearing ANY differences is a concern however. Maybe a hearing test would be a good investment. Or did you hear SOME differences but not enough to justify the price ?differences? |
I have a $2500 integrated, a $4000 front end, and $9500 speakers. My power cords cost $1850 each, my interconnects $6495 and my speaker cables $12500! Without the cables, the system is ok....with the cables, it is close to some of the mega buck systems I've owned over the years. Maybe more musical in some respects, if being able to enjoy more recordings is the bar by which we measure. I've done the value cables and everything in between...some are worthless, others are sublime and worth every penny! MIT's approach deals with the real world problems inherent in all conventional cables and does so with an ear for musicality. Transparent does a fine job as well, but in a more obtrusive way...not compatible for many systems and in line filtration used instead of parallel technology. |
Rugyboogie states the facts very well and without the abrasiveness if some other would be Shaman of things high end. |
I'll say this again, one of the best finds in cabling is the Monster Z200i IC. The shame is they are discontinueing it. It allows a huge soundstage with extremely pure and grain free highs, open warm and detailed mids with killer fast bass. I am currently trying to best it with A/B listening off of my CDP which has XLR and RCA outs with the same line level signal output. |
Recently had a chance to try Morrow Audio interconnects and speaker cables. Mike Morrow is one man who loves audio and it's reproduction in the home. His cables will blow you away for a budget price of around $200 to $600. PLUS YOU GET 60 DAYS NO HASSLE RETURN AND REFUND..no hoops or fine print. FYI, I've had $20K plus cables from Transparent and MIT...these are better:O) |
Llanger hits on something obvious, but never the less, extremely important. If music is truly the reason behind our obsession with this hobby, then any system that could reasonably reproduce sound accurately would be enough. Of course that is not the case in the least. We all have OCD to some degree or another and perpetually ruminate over the potential improvements that could be affected in our systems if only...you get the idea. Personaly, I cashed in my last mega system a couple of years ago and have been playing around with that money ever since, vowing to not spend any new money going forward (maybe even paying off a few bills along the way). I have stuck to my self imposed promise and have managed to put together a system that satisfies my musical soul even more than the mega system. Case in point, I came across a professional version of a popular interconnect available to the recording industry and compared them to my $6500 IC's. Yup, the $100/pair IC's were identical in performannce with perhaps an even greater dynamic range and enhanced clarity. Bottom line is that we should not have to spend obscene amounts of money on Audiohype. Setting a reasonable budget and knowing what's important to YOU are most important and efficacious. Being hoodwinked by the Audio Industrial Complex is not! |
Talk2me makes a good point...follow your ears:O) I've come full circle myself and find myself having the best results overall with MIT cables. They seem to have improved their products and eliminated some of the problems I used to hear with their older designs. To each their own....Enjoy!! |
