Wow thanks everybody for the thorough responses. the room is ~20x25. I listen to 'all kinds of music' (yeah I hate it to when people respond with that when I ask them;) But, I tend towards: industrial/metal and classical such as Bartok, mozart, shostakovich(sp.) I have a signifigant amount of 80-90's punk/grunge/industrial (Nine inch nails, Godflesh (guitar...guitar...guitar, drum machine, cop shoot cop (bass guitar +drums), Morphine (sax, base guitar, drums) I listen to Rolling stones, indie movie soundtracks, Rhianna, Snoop dog, Johnny cash, Bob wills, Dylan and librivox audio recordings. You get the idea:) coincidentally, I found music direct today and put this in my cart: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YgkC8EPVeUxjxTVz90uPIjvoA9byFshBI74OjmkBYEo/edit?usp=sharing |
All good stuff thanks for the websites. Ya'll have researched for hours,days, years...I was coming from the perspective of someone new trying to buy a piece of good equipment. As I traverse the net- going on a week now, Yes, many companies have their stuff offered online I am finding out. But, you cant just type 'Rega Brio for sale' into the omnibox and get a list of these online audio distributors with prices.
I hadn't really navigated this site extensively (its kindof cumbersome, like the old usenet system:)
I am filling a large space but, it is sparse. The reason for a tight little system is that I hate crawling behind components are trying to thread coaxial cables, place bare speaker wires into the clips on the back of a speaker. And I didn't want to be overburdened with components and flipping switches and twiddling knobs, inputs on and on ad infinitum before I could listen to a CD or record (I know its blasphemy but I like automatic turntables)
This also isn't a final system I'm setting up and needs to be as cableless as possible. its a traveller. I am getting out of 'Dodge' and moving to Arizona this summer. That is why I am looking for a small system.
I am looking at the B&W wireless speakers, the Dali Kubik pack and cocktail audio X40. But it doesn't seem to play US formates such as spotify, pandora. But it does rip from CDs and you install your own hard drive which is pretty cool.
Besides the cold in wyoming (although its 54f out right now) the fact that there are more antelope than people here makes for a seriously conservative and isolated milieu.
I am trying to learn my DAC's from my "Whodat's" and is is maddening because there is also PnP, Lossless, gapless, 'only plays 2 channel', 'only accepts file formats X, X, X, and X. Not Y, Y, Y." egads!
I mean when did Headphones start needing their own Amps and you have to strap one to your DAP which saves files at XXXbps and XXX MHz...:)
Why is a CD player that plays one CD so big! with its own power supply, power conditioner
These 'complaints' are all in jest- I love technology- I am just way behind the tiimes.
as some like to say here in Wyoming, "It is what it is"
S |
"It will play any shiny disc"
Thankya Mr. Wainwright now your talking my language:) All this alphabet soup has a long learning curve-and I am even ex-military!
I mentally check-out and start wondering what might be in the fridge when i read
"Upgrade the iDac to Asynchronous 24/192 with Peachtree's X1 USB to SPDIF Converter."
I am off to check out the systems you all have so very thoughtfully pointed me to. I really appreciate all the help everybody is giving me. |
from resolution audio pdf: "the opus21 only requires one power chord" Yes! As I am beginning to learn about all the options and how to listen to and evaluate a system. I am wondering what I am listening to/for. Such as in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O2tG17ILwQTo me it sounds shallow. that is less like a live performance-theatre stage and more like a modern movie theatre or art museum: |
:P
Yes, I am. but it has Harman/kardon speakers- it says so right on it.
So that sound was okay? I'm just checking |
Yep Wyoming is great for some, I'm just not one of those folks.
I am willing to buy used. I would also prefer it as it has already been 'tested'. For this system I'm not too picky about blemishes. I would like something unique (hence why I hit up fleawatt)and crafted/inspired by the music rather than squeezing out every note. To me, Music is art and therefore imperfect. |
Will this system be the big cheese/ bee's knees/ Troll's bread? http://www.musicalfidelity.com/merlin/I looked up troll... "A troll is a supernatural being in Norse mythology and Scandinavian folklore. In origin, troll may have been a negative synonym for a jötunn (plural jötnar). In Old Norse sources, beings described as trolls dwell in isolated rocks, mountains, or caves, live together in small family units, and are rarely helpful to human beings." Sorry, I wasn't helpful to you, Dgarrettson. Oh, wait, I did amuse you, though. So either you are never pleased, Or you forget that humor is a virtue. |
Mesch,
I understand. I've lived with guitarists. and hearing that same chord for a week or a month as they write a song necessitates styrofoam being glued to any shared walls:) |
Thanks, "United Toaster";)
Another poster mentioned FoCo.
I think I found one that is going to work. A simple Plug and Play system w/ wireless input that is also designed around one of their turntables, from a pedigreed company. So it doesn't seem I can go to wrong.
I definately have gotten an education, and was even called a Troll. A badge i will wear proudly- Trolls are cool (if not hairy footed people...wait I think that's a hobbit, any way:)
I have been keeping my eye on the Buy/sell forum but nothing has been listed that is a must have so far.
Cheers,
Lyn |
Zd542,
Thanks for the tip, I did see your first post. FoCo is on the border-several hours away. Though I prefer to buy from a "mom and pop", if you read the original post, I bemoaned exactly what Audio Alternative sales structure is. No Prices, no online cart, and all their product links take you to the respective corporate webpages.
Which is fine, but I go there, and come back and want to buy it, I have to then spend a a few days sending emails, playing phone tag, in which I can or will be told that I really should check out xxx speakers and yyy cables and that they have a great deal on exactly what I need and they will throw in a pair of high end isolation feet and an Audio Alternative USB thumb drive, and I say "yes,yes, yes."
And when the boxes arrive, I say, "S@$#, I needed four isolation feet!" I call em back to order another "pair" and also end up ordering a used/demo/open box Record Cleaner that had just arrived in the store that day.
Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Audio Alternative would do any of that. But that is reason why that business model is set up.
Similar to when you go into a cell phone store/car lot and none of the prices are listed (BTW, the sales price of a car IS listed on the car for the salesman- you just have to know how/where they generally will hide them:).
The seller doesn't want you shopping by price only 'features' and this will also guarantee that a buyer will be required to 'go through' a salesperson (rather than a cashier) to make a purchase.
I could go further with the Norman Peale speel. But I hope you see what I am and what I am not looking for.
I don't want to be sold something. I want to buy something-and there is a difference |
Okay, Zd.
FWIW I am unable to travel more than an hour (without about 3-7 days worth of planning)
I am unable to walk around and look at stuff nor sink down into cushy recliners to listen as sounds are offered to me and acoustic room treatments explained in a heavily sound dampened room.
I can tell you that you are absolutely correct that you
have "nowhere near the amount of education in psych(iatry) to diagnose on your level" and with your grammar, the MBA was likely procured online.
Whereas my experiences (in psych) in rooms UNdampened with treatments (cinderblocks and sandbags- might give a bit of a visual) and sounds...F!@# it.
It's obvious you're a bit of a pouf.
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I have narrowed my choices down.
I have purchased a Benchmark DAC2 and a pair of Dali Rubicon LCRs to
Now i amto the point of needing signal transmittal:
I am narrowing it down to the
Chord Chordette
Pro ject's box series
Auralic's ("Aries") or
Lindemanns ("Musicbook") |
