Built-in vs. Standalone DACs


The general consensus here seems to be that standalone DACs are generally better than those built into an integrated amplifier. Many also agree that standalone DACs provide more flexibility, i.e., you can swap DACs without changing the amp.

For the sake of discussion, let’s set aside the flexibility argument and only focus on sound fidelity for now. The primary advantage of a standalone DAC is that it provides better isolation (reduction in electrical noise) since it’s not sharing its architecture with other shared components like power supplies and chassis, etc. I’m also assuming that service and repair is a bit easier as well. What other technical advantages can you guys think of?

Another salient point that I’ve come across is that many manufacturers treat a built-in DAC as an afterthought, and so while the DACs might not be bad per se they are never the star of the show. As a result, the manufacturers don’t go the extra mile in a way that a company producing standalone DACs might. I think you can put Krell, Hegel, McIntosh in this bucket. If you disagree, feel free to correct me.

But on the other hand, we see some high-end manufacturers providing built-in DAC modules and charging quite a bit for it. Examples include Accuphase, Gryphon, Aavik, Soluution, Audio Research, etc. In many cases, the addition of a DAC module can set you back an additional $5-7k. Do you guys think the high cost is basically a ’convenience’ surcharge, or can these high-end built-in DACs compete with DACs that cost about the same, e.g. standalone DACs in the $5-10K range.

So let’s say someone is ordering a Gryphon Diablo 300 and have to decide between adding their DAC module, or buying a separate DAC. Ignoring the flexibility argument for a minute, which route provides better SQ?

 

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it really depends on the manufacturer we sell krel hegel and avik

all the dacs in these pieces are stellar the dac board in the krell is a 1k add on and you would have to spend 5k to beat it so the krell k300 i is just a steal for what itis 

 

the avik electronics are among the best we have heard and their built in dacs will blow away many really expensive dacs 

we just became dealers and their s180 streamer reminds me of an really good analog  playback system just amazing super liquid and involving 

probably the best sounding dac/streamer under 10k

so it really comes down to engineering prowess and intent

 

Dave and Troy

audio intellect NJ

krell,hegel and avik dealers

 

mofojo we have other dacs in the 5k price range and the internal dac being fed by our 432Evo server sounds incredibile the built in streamer is okay feed the dac usb from a great server and the dac  sounds fantastic

as per reviewers not all of them know what they are doing

 

Dave and Troy

Audiointellect nj

krell dealer