Building high-end 'tables cheap at Home Despot II


“For those who want the moon but can't afford it or those who can afford it but like to have fun and work with their hands, I'm willing to give out a recipe for a true high-end 'table which is easy to do, and fun to make as sky's the limit on design/creativity! The cost of materials, including 'table, is roughly $200 (depending, more or less), and add to that a Rega tonearm. The results are astonishing. I'll even tell/show you how to make chipboard look like marble and fool and impress all your friends. If there's interest I'll get on with this project, if not, I'll just continue making them in my basement. The next one I make will have a Corian top and have a zebra stripe pattern! Fun! Any takers?”

The Lead in “Da Thread” as posted by Johnnantais - 2-01-04

Let the saga continue. Sail on, oh ships of Lenco!
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Jean and fellow 'Goners, hope you had a great Christmas and I wish you all a grand New Year!

Now, if this guy with the EMT 948 really is thinking about selling his trusty plattenspieler, let me be the first in line to buy it. I will even throw in a Lenco or two or three or four. How about a Garrard 301? 401?

What a fun thread!

Cheers, Steve

Hi Jean, if nothing else, your rants are always entertaining and...long. Thanks.

I want to add some info to your Teres Rim Drive bank. To say Teres is half way there compared to the Lenco/other idlers shows your lack of understanding here. In fact, the Teres unit takes the idler into the 21st century and beyond. Removing the idler removes one more source of noise. To knock it for lack of torque is misleading and laugable. The motor for the Teres Rim Drive has an amazing amount of torque on tap AND it is adjustable! It can turn a 70+ pound platter. Yet it is small enough to be exceptionally quiet. Speed stability is tops. I have seen and heard it. The adjustable torque feature is quite handy. It allows the listener to dial in the sound that suits their taste. Want your ZYX to sound more like a Koetsu? Dial down the torque. Want a little more dynamics, simple, turn it up. All this while maintaining absolute speed control. Too much torque is as bad as too little, trust me. Very easy to hear.

As good as the Lenco motor is, the Teres motor makes the Lenco motor look and sound like the relic it is. Why does the Lenco need an 80 pound plinth? To cover up the noise and harmonics generated by our beloved four pound Lenco motor, that's why. A heavy plinth is nothing more than a Band-Aid for a noisy motor, barely adequate bearing and harmonically challenged top plate. Downside to the Teres...$1690. Then again, some would call it a bargain. I have heard less improvement in sound that cost many times more.

Having said that, I don't mean to knock the Lenco or other idlers. This is NOT an "attack the Lenco/idler thing". Things just need to be put into perspective, thats all. I own many different idlers so I can hear them for myself in my system. I don't care which table costs more or has more status. The best two sounding tables earn their way into my system. Period. I have tremendous respect for these great pieces of audio history. They still can make a lot of modern and exspensive belt drives sound absolutely broken! No question. And when on a budget, the Lenco is THE king of the hill. I will always own a Garrard 301 and 401, EMT 930 and most likely a Lenco or two. But they are not in my system. If you think that nothing can beat a Lenco, even in a giant plinth, your head is buried somewhere my friend.

Cheers, Steve
Jim, not trying to speak for Chris at Teres but the replacement motor for the Garrard is much more compact than the Lenco or Garrard motor. There would be no reason for the Lenco replacement motor not to be as compact. It would let you cut out less plinth material and retain more mass. I have a pretty good hunch that an eighty pound plinth would no longer be needed. The Teres motor is very smooth. Also, no vibrating speed control lever to make room for. The lever could just be removed as all speed is controled from the black box. The speed is very accurate I might add.
BTW, I am listening to a Versus/Teres driven 301 right now. It is a very nice improvement over the stock 301 motor. Part of which no doubt comes from the removal of all of the stock linkage and idler. How much is yet to be determined.
I am curious how the Lenco nation feels about removing the stock motor and idler wheel, the heart of the beast, even if removing them makes a marked improvement in sound? Is it no longer a Lenco?