Building a Music server


Hi All,

I am building a music server. My first one. So I need your experienced help in correcting my obvious and not so obvious mistakes.

I see a lot of advantages for using a computer as an input device to my receiver. Suddenly we are protected from format changes, Technology expiry etc.

My Design Objectives are:
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Store, CD Ripped and downloaded music with minimal losses.
Expandable Disk based storage with initial space of 120GB (I have a spare IDE)

Download and store music and video. So the machine should be connected.

A clean, small preferably touch pad screen for controlling the UI. Also a wireless control for the Keyboard and mouse.

CD Qualuity, Music output to my receiver.

Play CDs and DVDs (Music and Video to be channeled to my receiver.)

Fairly fast (Not for gaming). Tuned for good sound and video.

Sleek looking, so that it can fit into my music system.

Under $500

I am planning on an used P-IV machine with 512 MB RAM. Upgrade the sound and video cards. Add an USB card if required. Run a good flavor of Linux. An LCD screen (12").
An external sound processor of the likes of,

Stereo-Link 1200
Waveterminal U24
Edirol UA-1X
M-Audio Sonica
Yamaha DP-U50 CAVIT External Audio Soundboard

These are my initial thoughts. I am waiting for your comments. So please pen your thoughts.

Thanks
Boni
bonigv

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An update from my side. Just Placed a order for Waveterminal U24 for $159. :-)

$340 left for remaning setp :-(

Thinking on Edesilva's comments, How is Mac Mini any way ?. I mean, its display out. Will I be able to use it as a good quality DVD Player ?

Thanks
Boni
Any thoughts about
DSM-320, http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=318

This can receive Music streams. The documentation is biased towards receiving MP3 streams. But I feel it should be able to receive any streams from PC software (Since it is not a File Pull).

Can the audio quality of this device be improved with a Waveterminal U24 ?

Thanks
Bonib
Hi Elevick,

Can you please describe your system in detail. I would like to know your components, and their performance. Also it will be great if you can pen two lines on your experiences with external processors.

My Receiver is HK3840, This does not have any digital inputs. So I am talking all RCA here.

Thanks
Boni
Hi All,

I can see that my plans are getting good clarity. Thanks to Edesilva for the time you have taken to write all these details. Very informative. I am not very conversant with Mac. I live in Linux and Windows world of Intel processors. I will do some reasearch and cost comparisons to understand it better. For the meantime, My plan is leaning towards the following setup

P4 512MB RAM, Linux (I have another machine which can be used for EAC ripping)

I will definitely have an internal HD (Something like 120Gig), But I think an external IDE Array will be a good expandable option for the future.

10" touch screen monitor
RF or Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse

USB 2, connection to Waveterminal U24

Can any one put a critical finger on this setup please.

Thanks
Boni
Hi EDesilva,

Could you please explain, as you would to a complete iddiot :-), Thats Me, How I can connect my Laptop, Waveterminal U24 and my Harmon Kardon 3840. HK3840 does not have any digital inputs. It has only RCA inputs.

I saw somewhere that Waveterminal does not have RCA out. So I am a little nervous. Also, I read the U24 documentation, to get confused even more. It is talking about a lot of techy stuff !!.

Thanks
Boni
Well, I had to read quiet a lot of webpages to finally confirm that Waveterminal U24 does not have RCA out. It has standards 1/4" outs. So I bought a conversion cable, HOSA CPR202
(
http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product_Code=HOS+CPR202&JRSource=google.datafeed )

I hope it does the trick.

From All I read about Waveterminal's capabilities I am fairly convinced that it will do the trick without an external DAC.

Keeping my fingers crossed :-)

Thanks
Boni
Hi Edesilva,

THanks for clarifying that. I have bought that cable from J&R. They had free shipping. Miser as I am !!..Well I really don't know why I did not walk up to Radioshack next street :-)

By the way, do you think, I forgetting this DAC, and connecting directly to Receiver will work for a Waveterminal ?

Thanks
Boni
Hi Got my Waveterminal U24. I am currently using it with my PC Laptop. I am using the nalog out to feed the spekers through HK3480. It sounds very impressive. Thanks to Desilva for suggesting U24.

I could not find a great difference for FLAC output. But Bad quality MP3s do sound very good through U24. Is it a known observation or, Did I mess up anything with my Settings ?

Also, I bought the motherboard for my server. After all I decided to build it. Its a Micro ATX Form Factor P4, 478 Pin board.

My PC Case is going to be, Aspire X-QPack

http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144160&CMP=OTC-Froogle&ATT=ASPIRE+X-QPACK-NW-AL/420+Black/Silver+Aluminum+MicroATX+Desktop+Computer+Case+420W+Power+Supply

Will Keep you Posted.
Thanks
Boni
This is the latest update from me. Llooks like folks here has obviously lost interest in the cheapostuff I am building. Any way,

My Final build is complete now, Sparkling. The PC is cased inside a silver and black Aspire X-QPack, With an ASUS Micro ATX Motherboard. I used a P IV 2.8E Processor, and a good quality Heat Sink from Zalman (Copper). I chose to limit to 512MB of RAM, and a cheap $50 ASUS AGP Card, with composite video out. I opened my external HDD to take out the IDE to be used in my machine. My sound Card is USB connected Waveterminal U24. I installed a 802.11g PCI card, since I do not have plans for wiring my living room now. May be in a month's time I will run an ethernet cable. I bought a 15" LCD monitor for diaplay. But currently not using that since I can get away without it by running VNC server on the box. I control the computer from my Laptop. That works perfectly.

I just finished building it, and connected up to my receiver yesterday. I am very satisfied with the initial results. I went a little over budget with the monitor purchase. With the monitor System cost is $600. Without the system came for $499.

Thank you
Boni
Thank you Edesilva,

Well, System is not a quietest. It makes ome noice, which gets drowned in the music :-). Not disturbing to my ears. It makes noice from two fans. The System Fan and the CPU Fan. No Heat Sink, I don't have much experience with heat sinks, do they work well ?, Zalman is a Heat Sink + Fan. It is very quiet for the, Kind of colling it does. CPU runs at close to 36C.
http://www.floridamusicco.com/proddetail.asp?prod=u24repack&partner=froogle

Current Price is $145
Edesilva,

I remember you telling something about extending the USB cable. I am thinking of shifting my machine to another room and run an USB cable to the U24. Do you have any syggestion for this ?

Thanks
Boni