Hi audiolabyrinth.Thanks for compliments.I hope my experience could be useful to others Cheers!Raf |
hi czarivey.Interesting.How can you break them in a few seconds?Could you be more specific?Cheers.Raf |
Hi audiolabyrinth.Thanks for your comment.Your's will be a very interesting post.I will be waiting for it.I'll write further conclusions reaching the 200 hous of use.Cheers!Raf. |
Hi Michelzay.I puted the new Furutech FI-11-N1 Gold last week, so they have hardly 20 hours in use.They have gain detail comparing to the first listening.I wonder how much detail and resolution they will get in the next weeks.That why my question about break-in time.I wanted to be sure if they will continue improving in my system.Any other experiences with Furutech connectors will be appreciated.Cheers.Raf |
Rja.Very clever appreciation.The wire interacts with connectors of course.In my case I use the same old PAD Musaeus wire I`ve been using in my system for a year , so I consider it to have pased the break- in time process, that`s why I asked about the break- in time of connectors.But you are wright, according to what you say these connectors may have different times of break- in depending on the type of wire they are assembled in( metallurgy, if new or used etc)Cheers,Raf |
Hi dear fellows.I respect what Michelzay says about the improvements in sound performances he heard in his audio system within the time( 200 hours later).For me ears and memory toghether can detect so tiny details that possible can`t be mesured by any device.Another important issue is that in some audio systems this tiny things can`t be appreciated so evidently as they are system dependant.So again each person with his audio system may have very differents experiences.So, let`s be open-minded and respect others audiophile`s experiences.At least that is my point of view.Have a nice day!Cheers!Raf |
Rja.Thanks for clarifying..It's ok.No problem.Just for curiosity.Which are the differences in sound performances between the neotech cables series and the furutech cable using the same FI-11 G connectors?Many thanks for your comments.Raf |
Hello dear fellows.After 50 hours of listening the FI- 11 N1 gold I noticed many improvements in sound performances:The dark backgound is more evident, modulation in voices appeared, strings sounds not just lke strings but also with the sound of the body of instruments( ex.guitars, double bases etc)Overall speaking is a more relaxed listening, with much more deails and there is a sense of presence in music.So up to now I`m very satisfaid with these connectors.I will write later to tell everybody what other changes I`ll notice in the performace.Hope this helps.Cheers.Raf |
Hi dear fellows.After 100 hours of listening the FI-11-N1 gold connector my system opened up!!It got far better resolution, more depth in soundstage, 2nd voices are clear, the bass is well defined, there is more extention and dinamics.Now I can listen much more info and I realized what I was loosing in my earlier listenings with the same cds.Incredible!!!It is so true how much these connectors improve with the use.In my experience this burning process takes at least 100 hours.There is a big change between the listening of 50hours and this one.I will tell you if I notice further improvements in more hours.But at the moment I am amazed of the performance of tbese connectors. For me they are from another planet hehe!!Cheers!Raf |
Hi Audiolabyrinth.Yes!!! she is a beautiful beast indeed.Congrats!!!I will take Chris proposal.You can try gold first, listen to carefully and if something doesn`t convince you then you can exchange it for a rhodium version.My criteria is that Krell has a lot of resolution by nature, so maybe a gold receptacle could add this velvety character,roundness and musicality.I don`t know which your taste is, but if you want bigger voices, warmness and presence, gold is an excellent option.As an example speaking of AC connectors, I have a Krell kav 300cd and rhodium didn`t work in it, voices sounded restrained, with too much control, any engaging listening at all.It was a collection of details with zero musicality.I put then the gold AC connectors and it works amazingly, bigger voices, depth in soundstage,warmness and accurate detail as well.A friend of mine has a krell MD-10 transport and the same rhodium AC connectors didn`t worked also.Then he installed Gold ones and it sounded beautifully and now he can enjoy long hours of listening jazz with a cup of hot cofee in his hands.So if this criteria of AC connectors applies to receptacle outlets, I would take gold first.In the end your ears will tell what to get.Hope this help!Cheers!Raf |
Lak.
He he!I thougbt exactly the sameNot to break in but to break into....." into pieces"Hehe!!!Cheers |
Hi dear fellows.After 120 hs of break in the FI 11- N1 gold furutech Ac connectors, I still notice improvements in sound qualities.It seems the sky is the limit for this connectors!!Respect to last week listening , they gained in more depth in soundstage,instruments are more separeted in the scene as in a stage in a living concert, voices are more upfronted so you have more 3d sensation and more real sound.I think this process will take 200 hs as Chris Venhaus of VH Audio suggested and Michelzay of Audiogon says.My suggestion is that if you want to upgrade AC connectors, these ones are an excellent option.I feel like if I upgraded my PAD musaeus for a higher cable in the line.I`m very happy!I will write later when I notice any other improvenments.Cheers!Raf |
Hi czarivey.Thanks for your good sense of humor!!Now seriously speaking I could assume that you don't believe in these improvements in sound qualities with the use, and if that is the case, it's ok. Everyone is free to think as he wants.In.my case I only believe in what my ears tell me, and with the time passing what I hear is always in changement (for good) fortunately.Cheers!Raf |
Hi Czarivey.I respect your point of view.Indeed this matter of break-in process is something really audible but context dependent.In a studio record I imagine they use high level cables( may be reference) and if they are no broken in, it is not problematic because they have equalizers to arrange the sound as they like.In a real Hi End system ,no equalizers must be used, you have your system as in a flat position, so wiring works as an equalizer and they change in the burning process, so that`s why a broken in cable, connector etc ...is important to properly evaluate its performance with your system.At least that`s my opinion.Cheers.Raf |
Hi Audiolabyrinth.
In fact, you must be patient. During the break in process there are variations up and down in performance.It is very normal.While break in the furutech gold sometimes it seemed to me that they produced a dark tone with a lack of britghness and detail, I even put spikes under the shelf of the krell kav 300cd to get cleaner sound and few hours later the cleaneless, bright and detail appeared but there was a lack of body so I had to put the spikes off and all was in balance again.So my advice is be patient with both outlets.In some reviews it is said that for burn in outlets you need 300 hours.AC Connectors 200hours.Rhodium needs more time than gold to burn in according to reviews.At the moment I still notice improvements in my gold connectors( not reached the 150 hours yet) and the musicality stayed for good in my system and what is even more interesting the detail gets more accurate and real as well as the depth in soundstage.I`m very happy.Please give us your report about changements in both outlets.Cheers!Raf |
150 hours of break-in and still improving.
Hi dear fellows.It`s being 7 weeks of using these Furutech FI- 11-N1 gold Ac connectors and I still notice more refinements in the performance.First of all, soundstage, yes!! Each time more depth and more separation of instruments, also voices are forwarded so I have a full sound in my listening room.Details are accurate and you can hear the rever of voices and imagine the size of the studio or hall concert were music was registered.Silences are more evident and there is more resolution regarding bass frequencies.So in a word I have no doubt why several manufacturers of superior Hi End cables choose gold AC connectors for its power cables( Lessloss ,Purist Audio Design etc)I will make a final conclusion afer 200 hours of use.Hope this helps!Cheers.Raf |
Hi Audiolabyrinth.Your welcome!Up to now...which are the differences in sound performances betweenn gtx-d rhodium vs gtx- d Gold outlet`s?I see you´ve choosen the rhodium version for a tube/solid state hybred digital player.That would confirm the ^theory ^that tube based equipments likes rhodium.I ´m curious to see how the rhodium outlet will work with your krell FPB 700 which is solid state.According to that theory gold might work better than rhodium but who knows....??I will appreciate your feed back.Cheers!Raf |
Hi Audiolabyrinth.
I will be very curious about your test.It will be of great help to many audiophilers including me. Many thanks!Cheers.Raf |
Hi Audiolabyrinth.
I`m glad that you have arrived to make your choice.I think that if the Krell fpb 700cx sounds great with rhodium, then stay with rhodium.Normally audiophile people try differents products when they don`t get the performance of sound they are looking for or sometimes just for curiosity, but that is not your case I suppose.If it ever happens that you get accustomed to the sound of GTX-D rhodium and you want to have something different , then try the gold.You must take into account that both outlet´s should be broken in to make a fair comparison.According to what you`ve said this matter of rhodium or gold outlets doesn´t depend if they are used in a tube based or an SS system.I suspect then that is all system dependent(each equipment with its preferable outlet)According to sound differences I haven`t tried these outlets, just rhodium vs Gold AC connectors and the diferences were in medium sizes, velvety or silky character, extension in hight frequencies, bigger bass frequencies and depth of soundstage.How many hours have you used the GTX-D R in your system?Can you tell us the changes you notice with the hours of break in?Many thanks for your feed back!Cheers!Raf |
Hi Audiolabyrinth.
In my opinion if you are satisfied with the result of rhodium gtx d in the power amp, then I don`t see the convinience to test gold outlet.It could be advisable to test it only if you find something in the sound performance that doesn`t convince you( for instance if it is a sound with too much control, full of details but with no engaging listening, if it has restrained mids etc)but if it is not your case, then keep using the rhodium outlet in the Krell fpb 700cx.Anyway if you want to make the test with the gold version in the Krell, buy only if you want, I will appreciate your comments.Good point mentioned Michelzay regarding the relation between interconnects and speakers cables´s base metal and the gold or rhodium connectors.I will take it into account.Cheers!Raf |
Hi dear fellows.It´s being 200 hours of using Furutech FI 11 N1 Gold AC connector.I Must say that it has broken in completely.In the process of burn in there was many ups and downs, very common in these type of connectors,pacience must be needed.As a final conclusion I must say that the improvements respect of the original wattgate brass connector were:Better definition, deeper soundstage, darker background, better silences between the sounds,bigger mids (specially in voices), very listenable 2nd plane of instruments, relaxed listening and very musical sound.You have the possibility to get more info that was ^hidden^ in your music, So A+ for Furutech FI 11 N1 G!!I have something important to add;when terminating cables with Furutech connectors....make sure you don`t leave soldered ends in the conductors of cable.I have my PAD Musaeus with soldered ends and the tin in the end of the wires maked contact with Furutech´s clamps(in the original wattgate connector they didn´t make contact to the clamps) so it was not a proper contact for seeing all the potential of the FI 11 N1 G connector.So I cuted the soldered ends and reassembled the connectors to the wire in a way that only the copper filaments of cable made contact with Furutech´s clamps.The result was inmediately listenable: more openess, clearness and better soundstage.So take it into account when terminating your cables.Another important point is to clean all the contacts with isoprophilic alcohool before adjusting the clamps.These improves also the conductivity of materials by eliminating dirt.I hope it will be of help to others audiophiles.Best regards!keep in touch!Raf |
Hi Audiolabyrinth.Thanks!It's just my little contribution to the community.Cheers!Raf. |
