Break in time that extends to months or maybe even years!!

fundsgon
Geoffkait,
true enuf. He did however, predict orbital precession. His calculations perfectly predicted mercury’s orbit, which is subject to a higher degree of precession than the outer planets. Orbital dynamics using classical physics are not able to accurately predict the orbit of Mercury, Einstein’s Gravitational physics is needed for that.

recently, a star orbiting the milky ways central black hole was shown to be behaving as Einstein’s calculation predict. Astounding.

Anyone know what music Herr Einstein listened to?

Okay, now we’re light years off topic. My fault.

>>>>You’re getting warm. It was Einstein’s theory of General Relativity that explained Mercury’s orbit. Ironically perhaps it’s inaccurate to use the term gravitational physics as that’s a classical physics term. That was the whole point of the Mercury orbit anomaly, that it couldn’t be entirely explained by gravitational physics.

mahgister
Albert Einstein once wrote on a blackboard: “Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts.”

>>>>>Nope, sorry. Einstein would never say something so trite. It doesn’t mean anything.

fundsgon
Albert Einstein could predict the orbital precession of a star around a black hole, but not even he could predict the break-in period of a pair of bookshelf speakers.

>>>>His prediction was all the more remarkable as Einstein didn’t believe in black holes until his death. He became a strong believer of black holes after his death.

A break in is a whole lot better than an out break.  🤗

fundsgon
Start the a/b test with a component for which it should be easy to discern the difference between new out of the box and then after 1000 hours of normal playing. A pair of full range speakers should do the trick, handily. Well, actually two pair would be needed, one new the other run in for thousands of hours.

That would be a really fun test to take part in.

I’ll supply the post test beer, win and snacky things.

>>>>>Sounds good to me. See ya in about a year, then? 🤗

heaudio123
Ultimately the only thing that matters is is the effect audible. Would be a relatively easy test, a new unit(s) and burned in unit(s) and do A/B/X analysis. Unfortunately that is anathema to many audiophiles.

>>>>It almost sounds like you’re volunteering to do the required A/B/X analysis. I look forward to your analysis. That is unless it’s anathema to you.

The confirmation of the audible effect of break-in is a sticky wicket, I’m afraid, if one attempts to compare the sound of a component before break-in to the sound after break-in. What prevents the earnest audiophile from trying to get to the bottom of break-in is not only the 🔜 uneven audible effects of break in 🔚 with but also the difficulty in making comparisons of the sound over long periods of time, e.g., two weeks. 
If one wishes to compare the sound of his system two weeks apart not only is his memory of the sound in the first case crucial to the test but also, perhaps more importantly, how can he attribute any differences in sound to only break-in since a slew of external and internal variables probably changed. Rarely does the intrepid audiophile sit still for 2 weeks. Surely he would make some changes to his system in that time, no? And shouldn’t time of day, day of week, the weather be considered in comparisons of sound? Nothing is easy, if it was easy everyone could do it. It is virtually impossible to control all the variables in tests like this, a test which on the surface seems like a slam dunk.

You can’t debunk something that’s not bunk.

You can’t cheat an honest man and never smarten up a chump. - old audiophile axiom 🤗

Alas, the manufacturers are always the last ones to know. 😕

Reviewers are the worst. always changing things, speakers, cables, turntables, CD players. The system never, ever fully breaks in. The whole review process is broken.

Broken cutters, broken saws,
Broken buckles, broken laws,
Broken bodies, broken bones,
Broken voices on broken phones
Take a deep breath, feel like you're chokin',
Everything is broken

Every time you leave and go off someplace
Things fall to pieces in my faceBroken hands on broken ploughs,
Broken treaties, broken vows,
Broken pipes, broken tools,
People bending broken rules
Hound dog howling, bull frog croaking,
Everything is broken

Bob Crump got a little bit upset 😤 with the speaker dude in his and Curl’s system at CES when Bob found him soldering the connections for the new version of the tweeters.

heaudio123
There once was a speaker vendor who claimed that the poor performance / review of his speaker was because inadequate time was given to break in the wire in the speaker, and it was very special wire that took >200 hours to break in.

The vendor of that wire said the speaker vendors claims were poppy-cock.

That wire vendor: George Cardas.

>>>Sadly, perhaps, he’s not the only well-known manufacturer who is a couple paradigm shifts behind the power curve. We see this all the time. Amplifier manufacturers are probably the worst. c’est la vie, as they say in Brooklyn.

So, can we put all those rumors of fancy Duelund capacitors taking 500 hours to break in to rest? By the way at the shows, at CES it would take every bit of three days and three nights before the system sounded like it was almost broken in. You know, for the rooms that believed in that sort of thing. 

By inspection, since the Cable Cooker re-breaks in cables every so often, nothing ever completely breaks in or stays broken in. Make sense?