Bob Carver LLC has been purchased by Emotiva

Audiozen, before you go trashing Carver, what is your experience with his new line of tube amplifiers? I've had his 200 watt amplifier for the past 3 years and never had one single issue with the amp. It is the most reliable and stable tube amp I have ever owned. It is the quietest tube amp I have ever owned and as quiet as the quietest SS amp I've ever owned. It is capable of driving 1 ohm load (eg, Apogee Scintilla). The sound is one of the best I've heard from any amp I've come across. Dynamic, rich, extended, holographic, etc. It can drive complex loads with no problem. It's sound can be improved even more by some very simple inexpensive modifications. I've had past experience with amps from Atmasphere, Audio Research, Mark Levinson, Jadis, Krell, Pass, etc. You are misleading Agoners about Carver's new designs by posting your past dissatisfaction with Carver, whatever that may have been. I'm not defending Carver's past products because I have little experience with them, but his new products are winners in my book. The lower prices resulting from Emotiva ownership will allow more people to enjoy some of the best tube sound around.

Unfortunately, you have no experience with his new amps, so no credibility calling his new gear junk. As far his old stuff goes, that's your experience. There are forums dedicated to old Carver gear, so there are a lot of satisfied customers out there. But I get it. You don't like Carver gear. No point in beating a dead horse over and over.

Obviously enough people care about Bobs new amp that several threads were initiated here and multiple threads on other forums. And his new amp got product of the year award by TAS. You really need to pipe down. Your are so tea party, Sara Palinisk biased, you have lost your credibility. You sound like insecure teenage girl who got dissed by the high school quarter back.

Sorry I couldn't help myself. The guy has one track mind and such hatred for carver products and the man himself. I apologize to the tea party and Sara Palin ;)

Mitch4t, you have an awesome system. For the record, Bob Carver was the designer of Bob Carver, LLC. Bob C was not in charge of the financial side of the operation; Bob F was. My understanding is that the decision to sell to Emotiva was made by Bob F, who has now retired from high end and is traveling the country-good for him. The pricing of the Bob's tube amps was decided by Bob F, not Bob C. FWIW, the new reduced pricing of the Bob's tube amps was not Bob C's decision either. So I think it's a bit unfair to trash Bob C for decisions that were not his.

Audiozen, you are a broken record. Please stop. Don't you realize that in the end Bob did not have control over the bean counters who wanted to maximize profit? He quit those companies in part because he lost control over his products by the investors/board members who were more interested in profit than overall quality. Why are you comparing Sunfire to companies like Luxman, McIntosh, and Accuphase who charge many times more for their products? You have no valid argument.

Audiozen, You have an unhealthy obsession with Bob. Seek professional help. You'll get no more response from me.

May be least influential designs but one of the best sounding and most reliable amp I've ever heard or owned.