Blocking the propaganda


I have a friend who lives in the boondocks who is without question the foremost expert in this Country on a certain vintage turntable. I will leave the particulars out so as to avoid making him the focus of this discussion or letting someone else figure out who I am talking about. He said something to me recently that I always knew on a certain level but have not seen "transparently" until his comment. His statement is this; "audio magazines including Stereophile are useful for birdcages and if you run out of toilet paper and nothing else". This was in the context of discussing Mike Fremer's preference for 9" arms. I have concluded that he is absolutely correct, but only for those who have the guts to really dive into audio with open eyes and willing to expend the effort to focus all of their attention and for lack of a better word, devotion, to figuring out the truth for themselves. This person I speak of has unquestionably done that. He has engineered his own products that make his turntable of choice as good as it can get. He thinks outside the box. Convention or "accepted thought" mean nothing to him. The analogy that comes to mind is wine. I know of many who will not buy a wine unless some critic has given it a 90 or above. When someone points out how silly it is to rely on published numbers from someone they don't know, they claim that they rely on experts and numerical ratings because they lack the patience, time and resources to taste wine options for themselves. What it boils down to is intellectual laziness. I intend to filter out 100% of what I read in magazines and even audio boards as absolutely unreliable. I have no doubt that I will fall short, but it is a lofty goal nonetheless. We all ought to forge our own trail(s) with sweat and effort and open minds and avoid laziness. Apologies to those who don't appreciate sermons. 
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tomcy6, steakster, wharf,


Thanks for your thoughts guys. We are pretty much on the same page and I mostly ignore geoffkait, too.


However interesting his character may be and limp sense of humor he has, he does cross the line often.

In another thread, he called for a person’s death {"drop dead"), made fun of another member’s cancer, ridiculed me through my parents, etc. And all of that on an audio-hobby chat forum. He gets by with that because he is "quirky". I do not respond to his direct insults to me, but above-mentioned examples are what should not be allowed in these threads.

His posts about audio-topics became irrelevant long ago (in two posts, they frequently support opposite views), although there may be a word or two that is worth thinking about from time to time.

I have always thought of these forums as a bar you can come to and chat, argue a bit, leave as you wish, and forget about it as soon as you step out. Having said that, there are behaviors that would not get you far in the bar. If you are lucky, they would get you thrown out of it.
geoffkait,

I am not sensitive today. There are things whoever raised you, and you over time, should have taught you. Do not make fun of anyone’s cancer and do not mention people’s parents (in words or implied) in any way that could be taken as an insult to those parents. While you are at that, if you ever get tempted, do not mention people’s children either. Even if it is a mostly anonymous Internet forum, do not spill the garbage that you would not tell a person to their face.
geoffkait,

"Was glupson raised by wolves?"


No, I was not. I was raised by my parents. This is the second time you are asking about my parents. Is there any particular reason your interest in them is unexpectedly high?
n80, whart,

Huh, I accidentally lucked out by never going on the track. It would have been humiliating had it not been for self-conscious acceptance of my very low limits. At least I am fine at the stoplight. Same with audio-equipment, buying better than a boombox while accepting that someone else will set up something better, and me not feeling the urge to convince the whole world my set-up beats theirs is sort of a blessing. Still, intermittently reading magazines and forums brings some new light to approaches I may never even consider undertaking. I keep my cars and audio equipment stock while learning what else may be done with them. As far as Michael Fremer's reviews go, they are a little too excited and frequently appear predictable for me to continue reading more than two, or at most three, paragraphs. They may be valuable reading for someone else and are probably worthwhile altogether, but they do ooze polarization. No wonder that readership opinions appear to be extreme opposites of the spectrum. I think his articles are a perfect example of "There is someone who will appreciate it so let it be. If you do not like it, skip it and do not get mad."
n80,

I, kind of, hoped it was a fiction, but in these waters similar things get fiercely defended so I accepted it as a possibility that someone would be considering. Most of the hobbies are ridiculous to outsiders and some aspects are really hard to swallow even for those in the hobby. Just take a peek at cables threads, fuses, and what not.

Having said that, automobile-associated hobby is less prone to these debates as acceleration, speed, forces, etc., are widely-accepted parameters and are relatively easy to measure so people have less ground to argue on. Not that things do not get debated and, at some point, it may get silly, too. Now, acceleration when driven hard with and without air conditioning...does it matter as much as blue vs. green fuse?
n80,

Thanks for explanation about Bentleys and gas stations. It is an interesting theory, and probably a Bentley practice. I wonder how other manufacturers go around it, if it is really a problem.

Now, the actual post about Bentley owners filling their own tanks being posers is still a little unclear. It seems that the problem would be with the gas station and not the person who is holding a hose.
geoffkait,

I am not kidding at all. I am really curious why an owner filling a tank would be a poser. I did notice some post earlier mentioning a Bentley car, but post about filling a tank confused me.
Although Michael Fremer’s attitude occasionally deserves a raised eyebrow or two, how did his personality become a topic of this thread?

Does everybody on this thread even agree what "high-end" means? I asked on multiple threads what high-end is and I have never gotten an answer. Just like amg56 I have gotten many labels for myself, though.

Does anyone think that pictures of equipment, in Stereophile at least, do not help figuring out how the piece looks like? Angles are usually not conductive to getting a true idea of the looks.
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