Blocking the propaganda


I have a friend who lives in the boondocks who is without question the foremost expert in this Country on a certain vintage turntable. I will leave the particulars out so as to avoid making him the focus of this discussion or letting someone else figure out who I am talking about. He said something to me recently that I always knew on a certain level but have not seen "transparently" until his comment. His statement is this; "audio magazines including Stereophile are useful for birdcages and if you run out of toilet paper and nothing else". This was in the context of discussing Mike Fremer's preference for 9" arms. I have concluded that he is absolutely correct, but only for those who have the guts to really dive into audio with open eyes and willing to expend the effort to focus all of their attention and for lack of a better word, devotion, to figuring out the truth for themselves. This person I speak of has unquestionably done that. He has engineered his own products that make his turntable of choice as good as it can get. He thinks outside the box. Convention or "accepted thought" mean nothing to him. The analogy that comes to mind is wine. I know of many who will not buy a wine unless some critic has given it a 90 or above. When someone points out how silly it is to rely on published numbers from someone they don't know, they claim that they rely on experts and numerical ratings because they lack the patience, time and resources to taste wine options for themselves. What it boils down to is intellectual laziness. I intend to filter out 100% of what I read in magazines and even audio boards as absolutely unreliable. I have no doubt that I will fall short, but it is a lofty goal nonetheless. We all ought to forge our own trail(s) with sweat and effort and open minds and avoid laziness. Apologies to those who don't appreciate sermons. 
fsonicsmith

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High end audio is an interactive sport. There’s no time for sitting around and flapping one’s gums. He not busy being born is busy dying.

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Another bloviating manure spreader joins the fray. But why? He doesn’t ever actually say anything, other than lob dud grenades at your friend and humble narrator. Oh, well, what’s another stalker or two? If I was baiting you I did an excellent job. 🐟

My favorite oxymoron? Military intelligence.
I was under the assumption this thread is supposed to be about blocking propaganda, not spreading it. Like a manure spreader. 
steakster
@glupson geoffkait is actually Cliff Clavens from Cheers. With 10,000+ posts, this is his barstool. Curiously, he hasn’t learned

how or why to do this.

Perhaps, IT is beyond his area of expertise.

>>>>>Oh, great! Another old hippy. Welcome aboard, Zippy.
Yes, my sense of humor is a bit out there, I suppose, if someone doesn’t, you know, have a sense of humor.
glupson, I don’t know what’s wrong with you but I didn’t do any of those things you accuse me of. Maybe it’s time for you to take a time out.

Speaking of buttholes, welcome aboard, Georgie boy! Where ya been hidin’?
glupson
geoffkait,

"Was glupson raised by wolves?"


No, I was not. I was raised by my parents. This is the second time you are asking about my parents. Is there any particular reason your interest in them is unexpectedly high?

>>>>I didn’t mention your parents. I suggested you were raised by wolves. They wouldn’t be your parents. Are you a wolf? 🐺 Sensitive today, aren’t we? 
2psyop
One cannot really argue with the fascinating hobby of audio or how many people will spend ridiculous amounts of money on fancy boxes of wires that make musical noise. We all like what we like. To me, what is more curious and telling is what it reveals in people. Some who are arrogant, some who are instigators, others who are intelligent and reasonable and many who are helpful. Many are just stubborn salesman who want to push a brand they like. The hobby is fun, the people in it do not often know what they reveal about themselves.

Gosh, that’s fascinating.
Can anyone answer this question? Why does glupson come across so frequently as an intruder, an interloper, a leering 12 year old, nervously paging through his first Playboy? Or am I being too harsh? Is this another case of me shooting fish in a barrel? Was glupson raised by wolves? All the lonely trolls, where do they all come from? 😳
glupson
"Any Bentley owner filling own tank is a poser"

Why?

>>>>You’re kidding, right?

Outsiders looking at the audio hobby oft perceive ritualistic behavior, psychological trickery or traps, obsessive compulsive behavior, fetishism, masochistic behavior, lack of cost benefit analysis, peer pressure, crass salesmanship, trolling, shilling, behaviors of addiction, a general inability to express characteristics of sound without being trite, glib or hackneyed. Yet the outsiders perceptions of hobbyists are not necessarily false.

roberjerman
Fremer recently promoted (reviewed) the 16K Grado cartridge! Raise your hands if anyone thinks this is a "good value for the money" product!

>>>Typical pseudo skeptic Strawman argument. Nobody ever said it was a “good value for the money product.” Obviously it’s not. Duh! 😛 In fact, I’d call it a “bad value for the money” product. If you want to cause a ruckus you’ll have to do better than that.

roberjerman
I had the honor of Mr. Fremer calling me an IMBECILE after I called him out on UTube for promoting (flogging) expensive PC’s in Stereophile!

>>>>What a dork! You, not Fremer. 🤡 It is becoming apparent there is a huge gap between the cheap mid fi naysayers and the progressive, well-heeled High Enders. Light years, I’d opine.