Black Diamond Cones ADVICE


Hi Carl,Albert,Greg...I just ordered 3 from Jeffs Sound Values.They told me to just stick them under my Rogue 99 and forget them.I don't think its that simple.I wish it was.Anyone have experiance with these?I plan on putting the cones point down directly on my shelf. Im not concerned with scratching the shelf its high density MDF and has steel particles mixed in.I cant afford THE PITS yet.Any recommendations for a DYI footer or do I even need one.
david99

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David99, I don`t use the Black Diamond Racing any more , I`ve replace them with Valid Points, they worked a whole lot better. the BDR did work , but the VP`S WORKED MUCH BETTER , the sound stage was a huge difference than the BDR produce, the bass was better, the midrange was more "there", the treble was much clearer than before. that`s what I heard from just changing the BDR cones to the VALID points on my transport!!!! Sooooooo, I change them on all of my stuff, you have not heard you Rogue 99 yet till you try these, I`am not kidding, Hell if Carl does not have them on his CD-50 he hasn`t heard his CD-50 yet!!!! I can`t wait to hear what he going to say, but you know Carl , it will good!!!!I have a place to get these at a great deal and you get 30 days to try them or you money back if you don`t hear any thing, but YOU will . Greg
BM, They will have an effect on the sound of the Sony DVD unit, you will notice better bass and a much better sound stage with the Valid Points than the BDR. Albert is right about not using them under every thing, I use them on my transport, pre-amp, amp, but not my dac,it didn`t seem to make much difference there,and I`ll try them with my turntable when I get one to see if that works. My pre-amp and amp are tubes ,so it made a BIG difference there, you can call Tom at 440-526-1724, he`ll give the run down on them, you have 30 days to listen to them, if you don`t like them you can return them.They do WORK WELL, you can read about them in absolute sound, they like them ,and so did M.F. at Stereophile, he like them very much!!!Greg
To David99,I didnt say they won`t work, just they don`t work as well as the Valid Points,you will hear the difference with the BDR OVER YOUR STOCK FEET, but the Valid Points are much better, also you could try the BDR under your turntable . Some people like these very much,so if you don`t like them you could always sell them. do talk to Tom he`s a great guy. hey if you want you can e-mail me at home without having to come here. gregorygresham@webtv.net Greg
David99, I agree with most of what Redkiwi said about the BDR`s,I dont about the Valid Points, I didn`t feel they slowed the pace or rhythm down at all , I felt that it increased a little each time I installed them under the transport, then the pre-amp, then finally the amp, the last place I tried them was the dac,it didn`t seem to do anything better, but it didn`t make it worse,or lose any pace or rhythm. I do agree that not all of these things work on all equipment,but the Valid Point do work wonders on the ROGUE AUDIO gear. There chassie doesn`t seem as strong as some of the others, the ROGUE 66 is light as a feather,so the HEAVY MASS LOADING of the VALID POINTS ON this gear seem to work well, being a drummer, I`am well aware of ANY PACE AND RHYTHM PROBLEM IN AUDO GEAR, SOME OF THAT STUFF IS REAL BAD. Try one at a time,then listen to it, do all over til you get what you need from you set up, I`am not saying REDKIWI IS TOTAL WRONG, BUT WITH THE ROGUE HE IS. Greg
RedKiwi, Looks like the "pucks" were "PUCKING UP"the sound of your set up , I didn`t get that far with mine, I used the "PUCKS" untill the top end lost some air , then backed off. You could be right on the pace and timing thing if you use to many . Greg