no it is not a joke, neither is spending 55 dollars a piece for a better sounding binding post and not getting one. shandorne, I did wire them in the correct polarity, so that is not the issue. rlwainwright, have you never heard a difference in sound between a new product, what ever it might be, and the same product with some time on it? if not, you must be joking right !! |
thankyou to the people who left constructive posts, the point of audiodgon is the advancement of this hobby, and to help out fellow audiogoners to make their systems better, but somehow some of you like to attack anyone who does not think just like you, and it is wrong and not good for this hobby, if you have negative things to say, say it to someone else. or do the rest of us a favor and get out of this hobby ,thanks chris |
tvad, noboby was blown away by anything, the guy who posted that comment was kidding, or poking a little fun at this post . it [this post] has already started another joke post, see volume knob started by hi audio dudes or [HAD] . however I will state once again that I was not joking when I started this thread. My system does sound different, and in some ways worse once I installed the wbt binding posts. sorry to everyone that I can actually hear the difference, maybe I should have just tried to measure the difference, and be happy there is none. |
jallen, if you look at a wbt nextgen binding post you will see that the back of the post, or where it gets soldered to the wire is a flat pure copper gold plated ribbon. I cleaned the ribbon with a polishing cloth and contact cleaner, then folded the ribbon in half to form a crimp connection , inserted the wire in the fold , crimped it first then fluxed the area and added solder to the crimped connection. [solder was wbt lead free silver solder, soldering station was xy tronic model 68 900f . I was carefull not to use to much solder as this can ruin the solder joint. it is hard to see , since the solder is inside the folded ribbon, however I think the solder flowed nicely into the connection. thanks, chris |
ok naysayers, things are getting interesting, the sound of my stereo has improved greatly. Now the wbt binding posts sound very transparent and open, some of the body has returned, but with more resolution than before. if it is not the new solder joint and binding posts breaking in , what could it be? I will put even more hours on the amps and post again later, chris |
eldartford, I got the joke right away, because the joke was on me. If I seemed a little turse in my reply I was just pissed that the new binding posts did not sound better.the money and effort to install them so far has not been worth it. I will give these some more time and put the old ones back if they dont work out. we all need some more humor in our lives right now. after I settled down I did think that some of the comments were funny, and this thread did inspire another thread, see volume knob break in, [which is a joke]. This whole thing started becouse my rogue m150s have a tin o ring soldered to the output wire, which is then bolted to the binding post. A friend of mine
has the same amps cliped off the o ring and soldered the wire directly to the binding post and this one small change was VERY audible, it made the sound of his amps better in everway possible. so I thought that clipping off the Orings and putting in new binding posts would be even better , and so far it sounds worse in some ways, oh-well life go's on. chris |
Im starting to think that bad solder joints have to be what I am hearing, the solder is inside the folded binding post so there is no way to really tell. maybe because the folded metal acted as a heatsink and the solder did not get hot enough. crap.... |
shandorne, cool post, I have never heard of this muscle, But I have experienced just what you discribed before, Every once in a while I think that something is wrong with my system, then my ears "pop" and then the bass returns, I always thought that my ears were just clogged or something.
usually I have pretty good hearing ,I not that old "37" and can still hear up to 18K but cant hear anything at 20K . I dont think that this is what I am hearing with the binding posts though. the guy who posted about cryoing might be on to something, as what he discribes is closer to what I am hearing with my system , thanks ,chrissain |
kijaki, I unhooked my amps from the system, carefully removed the tubes and did the job, 1-2 hours max, like I said , my systems sound has improved since I did this "upgrade" and I will try to be patient and give it more time, because it is getting better, but at first I thought it ruined the sound of my system, I am perplexed as much as the rest of you as to why ? with my freinds amps we cliped off the Orings , soldered the wire directly to the old binding posts, and it sounded better right away, no break in needed. the only difference between his system and mine was the new wbt posts, but yet the sound of my system was of diminished sound , at least at first. once again thankyou to all the people who posted, chrissain |
