Big Stupid Warm Speakers


I'm getting ready for a speaker change. I've owned B&W 804 matrix speakers for about 12 years now. While I've enjoyed the refinement of them there's always been something missing.

Yes that's right, and that something might be BIG STUPID WOOFERS. Some of my favorite speakers ever were a pair of Infinity's I paid $300 for in 1979. They had 15 inch woofers, tweeters that were harsh and not the greatest, but these things roared like an angry lion even when no music was playing. When it was playing, about anything from Oingo Boingo to Mozart was a visceral experience.

Now with upper end speakers, you don't know there's bass until there's supposed to be, the tweeters are refined and realistic sounding, there's some wonderful imaging etc. But it's somehow too polite - I want to get back some of the warmth from the big woofer days. And no, using a sub isn't the same thing.

I remember being in a high end store about 10 years ago when a Polk Rep was there showing this huge new Polk speaker that was just incredible sounding. Big warm, realistic, detailed -awesome. I asked the store owner when he'd be getting them. He rolled his eyes and said, "Our customers are too discriminating for this type of speaker. The bottom end was way out of control."

So maybe I want out of control instead of polite. Can anyone put me in the direction of some BIG STUPID WARM SPEAKERS that still have some refined and high end attributes? The rest of my system is all Cary HT that retails for around $10K.

Cary Cinema 6 Preamp Processor
Cary Cinema 5 Multichannel amp (200 WPC)
Cary Cinema DVD 6 (incredible with CD's)

Even though the system is HT, the electronics do very well with music. And even the they're Cary components, they're solid state - but easy on the ears. I listen to Classical, Jazz, Electronic, Bluegrass, etc.
Oh yeah, and looking to spend under $3K/pair.

Has anyone else gone through this? Any speaker recommendations? Thanks.
larryb
entertaining thread... i remember some big 3 way polks from @ 1982 that were a blast. the drawback was the impedence dipped quite low and tended to fry amps without guts. had a buddy who kept frying his int.luxman amp (pre luxman sellout)that was a great piece and rated over 80 wpc. the speakers were fast as lightening and punched like goerge foreman on acid. they were wide but not too deep in big box enclosure. they were the ultimate college party speaker but very clean mids and good sizzle. i loved my big 2 way 10 in. jbl's but these things were awesome!
Another Vandersteen fan, I had a pair that I bought while living in Boulder, CO back in the early 90's (I think they were 2C's if i remember right). I think that is your magic bullet. For the money, I have never heard anything better that will give you good bottom end and great imaging- also extremely smooth and well balanced on all types of music which is much more than I can say for some of the more expensive stuff that I currently own. I'm doing a re-cone on a pair of CV D-7's just because they are big stupid speakers that give you that punch that you are talking about. I also have a pair of Klipsch Cornwalls that do an even better job of the big and stupid. Fortunately I don't have a wife to bit** about all this stuff. I have a pair of $2300 small speakers that I keep in my family room upstairs so that I can still find a girlfriend on occasion.
I downsized my system a bit when I got out of the audio business, I got a used set of Polk SRS 2.3 for $700 and drive them with the most over the top system probably in history, $20+k in JPS wire including Aluminata power cords, Belles 350 monoblocks, Electrocompaniet EMC-1 CD, but they rock. They have oustanding mid-highs and prodigious bass that may not be the last word in audiophile bass but they are mind blowing for imaging and depth. They are just an easy to listen to fun to crank up speaker, NEED POWER THOUGH