Whoa! Is somebody looking in the mirror? 😬
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I know you are but what is he? More specifically you’re the Pee-wee Herman. 😀
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Don’t take this the wrong way but I find all that talk of “how hearing works” from the neuroscience point of view, the sound waves interacting with the ear and the brain actually quite mundane. The work by Rupert Sheldrake, by contrast, in behavior of animals and other living things, how memory works and Mind-Matter interaction and related topics, is not only more interesting but more relevant to the audio hobby. Not to mention the Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research PEAR group. And the work of Peter Belt specifically with the perception of sound. In other words, I think it’s a serious mistake to reduce perception, including the perception of hearing to a physical level, no matter how you wish to describe that physical level. “The acoustic waves impinge on inner ear and the neurons transmit the information to the brain.” Give me a break! I think it’s an indication just how conservative audiophiles really are.
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You gotta be thinkin’, gee, I must be in deep kimchi if roberjerman is a fan. |
No, but he plays one on TV. 🤡
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Go where? Where was I going? 😳
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The things I’m talking about, the unspeakable, as it were, are not taught in Psychology class. If they were taught in Psychology class at least you would be able to put a name to them. In a sense they’re not even psychological in the everyday sense of the word. Not a trick, as it were, like subliminal advertising. Or a mind game. Something deeper. More insidious. But I’ve said too much. |
That last post smacks a little bit, not quite hitting the nail on the head, though, of the thinking behind the Peter Belt stuff and also the Anomalies Research program out of Princeton, and their Mind Lamp. Mind over Matter, Extra Sensory Perception, the influence of ordinary objects and materials and colors on the perception of sound and vision. They’re all related. The Men Who Stare at Goats. No goats, no glory. 🐐
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I’m not sure I get why religion is mentioned in the same sentence, breath or thread with audio, even with outrageous or preposterous audiophile tweaks. Because there’s no proof for religious beliefs. Oh, I suppose you could say there is evidence for God but even that’s a stretch. But for audio it’s a different story since there is empirical proof or evidence regarding every single one of things that give skeptics ❤️ 🔥. From Mpingo discs to directionality of wire to contact enhancers to Green Pen to things that go bump in the night like, you know, Silver 🌈 Foil and Message labels. The really disturbing stuff. 😩
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“Everything you Know is Wrong.”
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aalenik
Wait... there is one more thing.
Since we’ve touched on science & Buddhism, here’s an anecdote told by the Dalai Lama...
Traditional Buddhism teaches that the moon is lit from within. As a young boy, the Dalai Lama was very interested in astronomy and had his own telescope. It quickly become clear to him that the moon’s light was not from within, but reflected from the sun. His conclusion?
"When Buddhism is wrong, Buddhism must change."
Science is constantly changing as we make new discoveries, and it’s refreshing to hear someone say that religion should be just as flexible. Unless you literally ’know everything’ your beliefs and opinions should be too.
>>>I’m not sure I agree with your detective work inasmuch as Science is not really constantly changing. Science is becoming more and more a description of reality which is different from constantly changing. Science is extremely conservative and only changes very slowly and methodically. Theoretically science should change less and less quickly. Hyperbolically you could say. Name one new discovery. Religion, on the other hand, seems to change for political or self-serving reasons.
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Excuse me for saying so but there’s a fine line between blasphemy and just being silly. And between a blasphemer and a pseudo skeptic. Pseu-pseu-pseudio! 🕺
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@wolf_garcia How can you say such blasphemy about a fuse!
>>>>I hate to judge before all the facts are in but it appears you’ve been following the wrong sheep. 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑🚶🏻♂️ |
@prof - sorry, I just filed your last angst ridden post under Whatever. I have a sign over my desk, Never Argue with a Pseudo Skeptic.
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prof, I don’t mean to start a fight, but isn’t that what religious skeptics or doubters frequently say, “I just want to see some evidence.”? Your self proclaimed position as a sincere skeptic looking for the truth is not exactly bolstered by your recent statement that after all was said and done with your battle with vibration isolation you were not able to hear the fruits 🍌 🍉 🍎 of your labor. As I’m find of saying, a real skeptic would perhaps be more aggressive, you know, roll up his sleeves and dive in, kind of what MG was suggesting all along. A lot of these subjects, isolation, RFI shielding, directionality, Tuning I suspect, I don’t know that much at all about Tuning, usually turn out to be more complex than they do at first blush. I don’t suppose you tried to visit Tuneland to seek answers to your burning 🔥 questions.
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Prove it! Besides in one direction fuse distortion is audibly much lower. So you’re trying to tell me odd order harmonics are directional? Hmmmmm....
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Note that there is no actual engineering or scientific analysis proving that allegedly "better and way more expensive" fuses make a difference relative to a working stock fuse IN THE SOUND OF THINGS. They’re exclusively supported by "claims" of hearing things, which in my experience (extensively testing and comparing the damn things) is just silly when these claims , although possibly sincere, don’t take into account what fuses actually do with their tiny meltable wires. Hyperbole driven opinions don’t do any favors for the often sales driven purveyors of fringe tweaks, a fact lost on many when large profits or insecurity by listeners come into play, "Mom, I spent 150 bucks on this fuse so I MUST hear better cello tone and an expanded soundstage or I’m simply unworthy...schedule a session with my therapist now..."
You probably should have included in your first sentence, “...that there is no actual engineering or scientific analysis proving that allegedly “better and way more expensive” fuses make a difference relative to a working stock fuse in the SOUND OF THING” the caveat, “at least as far as I know.” Since not only did HiFi Tuning provide the evidence in measurements but also subject listening tests that correlated with the measurements. Also, there is the sticky evudebcecwe have that NASA began testing technically advanced fuses as early as 20 years ago. I kind suspect NASA probably did a careful engineering and scientific analysis of various fuse options, at least in terms of technical performance, don’t you? A clever fellow would probably be able to track down some NASA fuse analysis reports, no? How ‘bout reporting back what you find out?
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wolf_garcia
I have an old former surfer friend (he was a friend in to 60s, and not since) who’s an "actual" guru in Hawaii. Lots of followers, and it’s been interesting to see his strange guru path..smart guy, formerly great surfer...it’s all too weird.
>>>>>Dude! It wasn’t Uncle Stu, was it? Uncle Stu (RIP) posted over on AA mostly Tweakers Asylum for many years.
You can learn from other people by the way, and to dismiss that fact is odd, but experience and some logic can often make you less susceptible to hyperbole and agenda based falsehood.
>>>>Yes, people can learn, if they they are capable of learning, which I find many people actually aren’t. I guess that’s the way the cookie crumbles. 🍪
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Calm down, supertweak, the reason I cut and paste your quotes is so you and others reading will see what I’m responding to and why. Otherwise folks would have to figure out the particular post, I’m responding to. It might be buried way down the page by the time I get around to responding, should I choose to respond. Capish?
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supertweak
If someone really has a good mind its hard to picture them verbally stalking somebody and multiple times pasting paragraphs from thier targets listings in thier own listings in an attempt to make them a joke.
>>>>Actually it’s more than a simple case of a spelling error. It’s a grammatical error. The word is his not their.
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supertweak
ATTENTION:TO ANYONE ON HERE ESPECIALLY NEWBIES. It's best not to give out any personal information about yourself on here.I make sure never to give even my fist name or last name,what state if any I am from (could be from Europe for all anyone knows),any info about dealers you frequent,( there are no more high end stores around here; a pity) or anything else that would breach your anonymity.The 3 characters above are an example of a probable click and they are very suspicious to me for reasons discussed.My very first discussion post got removed over a member (similar in personality and theme with the 3 above),who was using 2 usernames and when he realized he was near to being "found out" he started talking like a black man with jive slang all of a sudden with his one username, in order to seem like he was two different people.Do like me and watch out and play it safe on not giving anything away about yourself in these discussion forums and lets realize we are all here for (clean) fun,sharing and learning.
>>>>It’s probably best to file that one under Whoa!
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2psyop
I have mentioned a very inportant fact here before when evaluating audio equipment. It gets overlooked at least 99 out of 100 times. Most often, it is ignored because it is true. It is one’s own hearing ability. A great many of us audiophiles and audiofools have hearing LOSS. Mainly in the upper to mid freq band. How many of you have had a hearing test and know that your main listening instrument is working properly???
It would not surprise me, if 10 people assembled together for a hearing audition and evaluation session and they did not agree on what sounded best. Chances are good, they don’t all hear well. Some have hearing loss.
>>>>Hey, that’s the way it goes sometimes. On the other hand one might argue someone with excellent measured hearing might not know what’s he’s listening to or be able to pass a blind test. And someone who’s hearing has degraded might be able to pass with flying colors.
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supertweak
Truth is important on here.Most people on here, similar to myself are always trying to get closer to "real"with our sound.We count on truth and beliefs to lead us in the right direction of what steps to take next.If something is false it leads us in the wrong direction; down the wrong path.Progress often depends on second guessing presumed assumptions.Many are taken for granted and etched into stone.
>>>>>Remember what the Blue Fairy said. “Only quote facts.” 🧚♂️
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