Better CD Sound: The Search


Went Big into Vinyl last 2 years, then re-discovered my many CD’s, mixing it up plenty now.

I continue to try and find a CD Player with better sound than my existing cheapo Sony Changer that surprisingly keeps on keeping on.

I am hoping recent upgrades to the system will more readily reveal differences:

99.9999 copper speaker wires and interconnects, locking rca connectors, mx110z tube tuner/preamp overhaul by Audio Classics; cayin a88t bias by VAS; 16 ohm L-Pads replacing 8 ohm pots; and finally a I bought a sound meter to balance/refine the speaker’s L-Pads (it ain’t easy) for the best sound ever.
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CD Quest So Far:

I want dual processors, go used to keep cost down, even consider older vintage.

1. my Onkyo Grand Integra (DX-7500 I think), fixed the damn drawer opening problem several times.

2. This cheapo Sony Changer given to me, eh, use if for parties, why not.
surprisingly sounded as good as the Onkyo to me and friends, gave the annoying Onkyo away.

3. tried used Oppo 83 Video Player for it’s audio

Laser was weak, ’no disc’, found it is a common problem with heavily used lasers. Back it went

4. lightly used Oppo 105. Everything worked, but didn’t sound better than the Sony. Oppo is big, single, expensive, not sellers fault, so I sold it myself rather than return it, lost $205. on that attempt.

5. ’new original stock’ KLH (made by?). played a few discs, then the discs started mis-tracking on discs I know are ok.

found small black bits clinging to the surface in the area of the problems (cds play from the inside out, just guess how far out). Turned out, the belt(s) were dried out, thus when put into motion after years of storage (where?), they shed bits of rubber. Back it went, full refund including return shipping. never compared it to the Sony’s sound

6. Resolved: if vintage, make sure belts are available, get a low price, open it up when it arrives, watch it move ... use, replace belts, return as last choice.

7. Just Bought Two, in transit, One Single; One 6 Disc Changer. (both with oem remotes and power cords, most for sale are missing).

a. Denon DVD-2910 Single Player (big dent on the top. $52. del’d, eBay) (crutchfield keeps old info on their site)
https://www.crutchfield.com/S-6TIPMQKBMUZ/p_033DV2910B/Denon-DVD-2910-Black.html

b. Onkyo Integra CDC-3.4 six disc changer (open box/demo) ($51. delivered) (bserplus.com)
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_164CDC34/Integra-CDC-3-4.html

c. a bag of belts. because I will be keeping something, and I have other old stuff with belts
https://www.ebay.com/itm/334135204014

d. spare rare OEM remote for Integra 3.4, eBay

Keeping My Ears Crossed!

elliottbnewcombjr

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fleschler

 

Yes, I am familiar with the 707ESD. A stone Sony classic!

 

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fleschler

 

Right On! Never heard the 777ESD, but did enjoy the SCD-1. Could not afford it in the 2000's. I did own the 520ES for 25 years. Those early Japanese spinners were built to last for a long time. I wish I could have experienced the Kyocera back then.

 

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fleschler

 

Thank You for the follow up. I missed Kyocera back in the 80's. Back then I was a Sony ES fan/owner. Audiophiles still talk about the Kyocera brand. Some pieces of Audio gear are relevant in 2021.

 

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fleschler

 

1987 was a very good year. Which player from that era do you own?

 

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elliottbnewcombjr

 

Excellent! Good to read that you are enjoying CDC 3.4 player.

 

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elliottbnewcombjr

 

Are you receiving a Denon replacemnet?  Happy Listening!

elliottbnewcombjr

 

I missed it- was the Denon laser damaged? Excellent suggestion on the Betty Carter disc.

 

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elliottbnewcombjr

 

 

Thank You! for the initial impressions and toughts on your Integra CDC 3.4 player.

Keep me posted as you massage this player into your room/system. Continue to compare against the Denon as well.

 

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elliottbnewcombjr

 

Excellent! I would enjoy the Denon for CD playback. Then, enjoy your Sony spinners for SACD plyback. I own around 4K CDs myself. 200 SACDs as well.

 

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elliottbnewcombjr

 

Excellent news! May the new Laser last a long, long, time. It is OEM from Denon?

 

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elliottbnewcombjr
Malaysia is not too bad a manufacturer. Anything (place) is better than china.
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elliottbnewcombjr
2nd- Sony made a few spinners (not ES badge) that flew under the radar for performance and value. Model DVP-NC80v is such a player.

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elliottbnewcombjr
Thank You for the links. Good to read that Integra/Onkyo are still in the game.  Upon receiving your CDC 3.4 check the back panel to determine if made in Japan?
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elliottbnewcombjr
Keep me posted on the Integra CDC 3.4 - I did not know that this company was still around?
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elliottbnewcombjr
Yes! here is to Good Luck in the repair process.
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elliottbnewcombjr
Very cool that you can work on CD players. Which Brand(s) are your specialty?
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elliottbnewcombjr
Thank You for sharing your CDP history. The good news, is that, there is a plethora of Demo/Used upper tier spinners in the secondary marketplace.
Keep me posted on your purchase decision. Another +vote for purchasing CD players in 2021.
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